Belly: We will defeat them but not without a fight.

That's true, but I prefer to do it elsewhere, not in Australia.

Belly: one nation can only deliver blind hate.

You say One Nation has blind hate. I beg to differ. One Nation has woken up to the fact that Islam is not good for Australia & says so. It's not good for any Western Country. That doesn't mean blind hate. I don't like Broccoli but that doesn't mean I hate it. It means that I would prefer something else other than Broccoli.

It's a typical Lefty stance. "If you don't like what I'm for than you must hate it. Therefore you are not Politically Correct, or other such nonsense so you must be in the wrong. We'll stand outside your house & shout you down so you don't have a voice." That is typically Lefty thinking. Well, that's what they do. Ay.

I would prefer any other Religion than Islam. Christianity, Atheist, Buddhist or Hindu, leaving Islam out altogether. That's not hate, that's being sensible & with-in, Workplace, Health & Safety Guidelines.

jayb mate, believing anyone not keen on one nation is a lefty is,well lost in my opinion
Even true conservatives know they are air wasters
Vote Liberal or Labor
We will need for decades, to fight the war at home and abroad
those wanting us to be kind to terrorists and those who support them should explain when did those things show compassion to any one
This election must not empower extremes on any side

Belly: This election must not empower extremes on any side.

When is One Nation extreme. One Nation only points out the "Elephant in the Room" that no Party is doing anything about. That's what the ALP & the LNP don't like, being shown up for the "Do Nothing" that they are. The Greens, ALP & LNP call it hate speech because One Nation shows them up to be useless Ego chasing twits. Malcome, Abbott, Shorten & die naturally & Pants on Fire. All Ego chasers.

I know One Nation hasn't real power to do anything but heap shame on the two Major Party's & try to force them into providing better Legislation. Well, with the Greens, she doesn't need too because they heap shame on themselves.

To Belly.

I haven't said something to be hateful. But By looking at your comments, you go back and forth on Islam quite a bit. It looks like your spinning your wheels by trying not to hate, while at the same time holding on to the hate and distaste you have for Islam.

You can't have it both ways. I don't agree with Islam, but I also don't agree with atheism or several other religions. The difference between Islam and the other religions are that there is terrorism that is popping up throughout Islam, and I honestly can't say I can tell one who is prone to turn to terrorism and be "radicalized" compared to another that wants peaceful coexistence. It's not hate to see this for what it really is. It's a dangerous risk. If you care for them then it's a risk worth taking, like taking on a troubled teen that needs help and has been in and out of homes for a long time requires acknowledgement of the dangers assoicated with bring that teen into your home. If you don't care, or don't think you can take on the burden of that risk then you don't adopt that teen.

The same is true with Islam and Islamic countries. To offer them help (because their human and it's the right thing to do, or because of any other rationale to make you say it's the right thing to do) and open the borders or send money and resources to them is an act of kindness and taking on the risk assoicated with it. The money, resources, and people we send over there could be kidnaped, killed, or fuel terrorism because of the corruption there. The ones fleeing or just moving away from that enviornment might only bring it to our homes if we let them in. That is the risk. There is no getting around that. You either take the burden of that risk, or you don't. There's no middle ground if you can't tell the difference between a terrorist in the making, and a peaceful refugee.

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This is an extreem stance to you I'm sure. But I would say that it can be restrained. You can take it by a case by case approach. Let in some without letting them all in kind of thing. The alternatives are to take them all in and show our hand for taking on more then we have the ability to handle; or to close the borders, close the foreign aid, and stop helping criminals and terrorists.

All I'm trying to say is to stop trying to take on the "no hate" stance when your words and comments already show you have no love for Islam, and are spinning your wheels trying to not be hateful but also not be generous and supportive. Does this make more sense? There's got to be a point to be practical and say "I choose this way or that way and take on the burden of that decision." You can't be on the fence forever and still think your making an effort to make the situtions better. It's not practical, but is just spinning your wheels.

One last thing, Belly.

In your reply to Jayb, you said:

<<those wanting us to be kind to terrorists and those who support them should explain when did those things show compassion to any one>>

This brings me to mind that you want an explaination. From anyone who would want to support terrorist or show them kindness. I can't give you anyone else's rationel. For me it stems to a purely simple feature. You show kindness to a criminal to save them from their crimes, and help them to not return and commit the same acts that sent them to jail. You show kindness to a teen who had an abortion not because you agree with them getting pregnet, nor because you agree with the abortion, but because you know their life's are a tangled mess and they need kindness.

These are the stances I see in society and marvel at the kindness and generousity that stem from the individuals that hold these moments of generousity and warmth even to those who are in the wrong in some way or another.

I know this is not something anyone can take full blown without sacrificing their lives fully in the process to look after those who can't, or just won't, look after themselves. But on a small scale, any of us can take a choice and try to help save one person, or one sitution by the kindness and generousity they have to spare. This is the only reason to ever take on the idea of giving kindness to a terrorist. Out of wanting to save them. Nothing more, nothing less.