We are in a war, we [this generation] did not start
That war uses the worst parts of a holly book, not known to be inclusive
We dance around a truth, there never was a God
Had there been one why did He/She LET OVER 4.000 OTHERS EXIST
This war, has seen our welcome to some, become a platform for betrayal
If we want to be kind, save it for the two women [currently] wanting to flee from Saudi Arabia, a country sponsoring terrorism
Let us use their very culture against them
But bring them home, not my home thanks

Belly,

"Had there been one why did He/She LET OVER 4.000 OTHERS EXIST"

Saying that He let over 4,000 other gods exist implies belief in the God that allows their existence, as does your emphatic capitals; have you suddenly become a believer?

There is one part of this story that's missing. Just details regarding the ISIS brides. How many are wanting to return to their homes. What countries are they running back to. And what are they running from? Are they running because they made a mistake, or are they running because they'll get hanged or otherwise face justice if they stay where they are. If this is a last ditch effort to circumvent justice, then no, don't let that person return to the country she is trying to flee to.

Each woman can be judged on a case by case instance instead of thinking that this is opening the gates to hundreds of criminals who joined a criminal organization. (Unless the numbers support that there are hundreds trying to come back). From web searches I can only find a few people trying to return to their home countries. Not to Australia either. So is this really an issue at all for anyone here?

To Armchair Critic.

If the west is responsible for the issues of terrorism in the Middle East, then it can't be solved by letting a few women running from their past come back to the countries they came from.

If it can be solved at all, then letting them back could be thought of as a start, but I wouldn't go that far either.

The reasons for letting them come back are not because of being responsible for terrorist, but at least for me would be on the basis of their claims that they are fleeing and at risk. Redemption is a valuable principle to me. Second chances, first chances, and forgiveness are worth consideration. With that in mind. i would consider letting the brides back. There should be a way to do this while also maintaining caution for the safety of the countries they would be returning to.

You'vecalso raised several hard questions. Why should you take the responsibility for a mess you didn't create or agree with? Be held for actions that the US was involved in, not Australia. Even a question of supporting the US at all.

The question was posed by Belly in the terms of western responsibility. I answered that question using the same terms. Change the terms changes the question. But yes I still maintain the idea that our history is our responsibility. If you can't fix the wrongs you can at least do something to make it better. That said I don't have any idea of what actions could be done, as a means of doing something about it. There is too much corruption in the area to just give money, and any other solution would require a more hands on approach with whomever takes the responsibility. Meaning having people sent there to the danger zones. Risking their lives to try and make a difference.

I don't have a solution on hand. And the scope of the questions goes out away from the topic of terrorist brides.

To Jayb.

It sounds like you have a similar position as Belly has regarding religions. Basically to kick all religions out and be happy without any of them. Sounds very controlling and oppressive of a view. Reminds me of China in their cultural revolution. Just a heads up, so you don't keep going down that path of thinking.

As for looking at the problem through western eyes, or middle eastern eyes. I don't know how to look at a situation through middle eastern eyes. I don't intend to learn except for aspects of finding solutions in their lands that their culture wouldn't reject and be a waste of money on. On that note, I also don't intend to look at it through your eyes or anyone else's either.

To Belly.

You generalize too much. Work on that. The situations each generation is born into is always based on the situations that their parents bring them in from. This includes the benefits as well as the responsibilities. Or would you also be ready to not take the things your parents generation fought for, because you did not fight for them. Freedom, prosperity, a safe home. Think of all of it on those terms before you crash with "not my problem" blindness. As for religions as a whole, that has nothing to do with whether to let the terrorist brides come home. Unless your response to the brides is to not take them back and also kick out all religious people of Australia as well. If that is the case then read my reply to Jayb. It applies to you as well.

is mise mate I just do not understand why you think you can think for me, why the nit picking,
Not -now-soon we are unlikely to think alike but interested in your posts
In my last post I spoke about two women who fled the Saudis, both have given up the faith and want freedom
Many more would too if we gave them hope
My detractors will have my total support for bringing them here
But never ever for brides of or terrorists
USA and England have said no, we have too in relation to trying to take citizenship from one fighter
Now, a personal explanation, why am I so harsh on this subject
Warning, the soft underbelly of Labors left/Greens/True left turns voters off follow the voters do not try to lead them to places they will not go