Paul,

It's actually you that has scored an own goal, the criminals in question while being visa overstayers trying to import drugs were caught before importing the 1.7 tons of meth and will spend some time in an Aus jail before being deported, and the only cost to taxpayers is the cost of a decade in jail either here or in the US.

Your assumption that because a couple of felons abused the tourist visa, that most or everyone that does so is a felon is just the type of unsupported bollocks that makes your posts so phony.

That there is a string of rapists pedophiles and people traffickers resulting from Labor's boat people invasion completely outweighs any drivel you can pick up.

Shadow you really must be in Cloud Cuckoo Land.

//the criminals in question (a pair of Septic Tanks) while being visa overstayers trying to import drugs were caught before importing the 1.7 tons of meth//

Yes they were, but do you honestly expect that this pair were a couple of newbies on this first op of this kind.

Do you honestly expect that some Mr Big in Chicago or somewhere, would entrust the illegal importation into Australia of 1.7 tonnes of ICE worth hundreds of millions of dollars into the hands of a couple of first timers on their first operation. Even the forums most gullible wont swallow that.

Paul,

I don't think you realise how this works. You made a claim that the real illegal immigrant problem is visa overstayers citing that there were presently 64000 in the country.

Unfortunately for you the analysis clearly showed that the vast majority left shortly after their visas expired, and the real number that remained long term was closer to 1000 p.a. which was a drop in the bucket compared to the illegal boat immigrants.

Secondly you then tried to assert that these visa overstayers were costing Aus a fortune, but as none of them get welfare, medicare etc from the state, this claim also proved to be complete bollocks. You then gave the example of 2 criminals that overstayed and tried to import drugs as a negative example of these overstayers, that they were almost immediately caught and jailed destroyed that example.

As a final fling you now claim that there must be others that are similar. Well that is for you to please explain, and I assume that you have completely failed to find another example.

SM - 6
Paul - out for a duck

Shadow, the only figures I rely on are those supplied to the Senate hearing by the Departmental Officer giving evidence under oath. Not the rubbery figures that are a figment of your imagination. We are so fortunate that there are not more criminals among the 64,600 overstayers. Just a handful who want to import 1.7 tonnes of illegal drugs. You and this clueless government do not have any idea what some of these overstayers are up to.

You like the others who have tried to down play overstayers, and failed, you to have been beaten well and truly on this.

Paul,

I wasn't disputing your numbers just your slack arsed feeble analysis.

It was your words that admitted that only about 1000 overstayers get to stay for the long term, and you have yet to prove that any overstayers have cost the state even a tiny fraction of the $10bn that the illegal boat people have.

So you have failed on every score.

Shadow, I don't need //to prove that any overstayers have cost the state even a tiny fraction of the $10bn that the illegal boat people have.// I never made that claim. If Scum O'and the rest the mongrel mob want to waste that kind of taxpayer dosh on politics of trying to save their hides, then you should start a thread on that very topic.

The latest revelation; We are now getting 90 illegals a day by air!