Mhaze, I never mention EROI !
Yes we can stand here with scientists drawn at 10 paces but what
would that gain us.
I am well aware that all the figures we quote are very variable and
that something you say today will be history tomorrow.
Do you have a good source of oil statistics ? Mine are getting old.

Belly Quote "We, in our lifetimes have seen massive changes"

At least say what these massive changes are.

Philip S have have lost the ability to know that
At my fathers birth those brothers flew the first airplane
At mine kerosene was still, the fuel for most tractors
We did not have computers or TV our phones more often than not had [outside the citys] an operator to connect us
The Sydney to Newcastle road was dirt and rough, 6 hour trip to travel 300 klm
Railways ran on steam loco and freight intercity was done with ex ww2 trucks at first, 2 days Sydney to Melbourne camp on roadside over night
True mass migration started post ww2 with refugees
Must I continue

No answer PS?
Why ask? come on now it is there in front of you your question must look silly, even to you
Mid 40,s for most of the country for the next week
Damn fraudsters have found a way to make this weather seem to prove the point

Belly Your ignorance defies logic.

Quote "No answer PS?
Why ask? come on now it is there in front of you your question must look silly, even to you"

** I post a question to you Monday, 14 January 2019 11:49:00 PM **

You reply at Posted by Belly, Tuesday, 15 January 2019 4:36:59 AM

** Then you have the temerity to expect a quick response. **

If you had an ounce of intelligence you would have known I was not in the same time zone as you and I can assure you of one thing I do not sit at my computer in anticipation of receiving a reply from you.

Your ignorance is also demonstrated here on this thread YOU started giving it the title of "Man made or not it is changing"
YOU state "We, in our lifetimes have seen massive changes"

One would expect you to keep to subject and these massive changes would be something to do with climate change, not the rubbish changes you came back with as examples, try sticking to the subject.
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Quote "Mid 40,s for most of the country for the next week
Damn fraudsters have found a way to make this weather seem to prove the point"

** I raise your BS with 2 counter offers **
1) UK snow SHOCK: NO ONE will escape the COLD - wall of snow to COVER Britain for a month
THE UK will be hit by a wall of snow as temperatures plunge on Wednesday, leaving no part of Britain out of the freezing weather.

Temperatures will fall more than 10C as winds bring the wintry weather to the British Isles.

http://www.express.co.uk/news/weather/1072261/uk-snow-forecast-cold-weather-uk-met-office-long-range-forecast

2) Tanks roll in to frozen hell: Germany and Austria call state of emergency as troops save residents from NECK-DEEP snow after 21 deaths in worst winter for more than 30 years
Tanks and troops were drafted in to rescue homeowners from neck-deep snow in Germany and Austria as the whiteout looked to continue past the weekend.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6584305/Europe-blanketed-snow-following-deaths-21-people-winter-whiteout.html

Yes Philip S the cold sweeping Europe & much of the US is even more extreme than the hot we are experiences. However I am sure you will agree that this in both areas is weather, not climate. If it continues for a few more years of course it will become climate.

NASA had released their temperature figures showing the planet has cooled 0.5C over the last 2 years. Again this is weather, & to be expected following a couple of El Nino years.

Pity we can't get a rational response from the warmists, who will rant on about the temperature in their kitchen over a few days, rather than the planet over years.