Please consider, politics, always a hard subject
We will have different views, we will clash
Each side will be upset with the others view
SM and one other named me a lie teller, in all honesty in my view because the truth hurt
We too say, in some cases all, but many voters do not understand what they vote for
That all, it was trotted out to explain the Victorian thrashing the LNP took, voters we are told are stupid, unless they agree with us.
Politicians, on every side, think, in my view know,a refusal to truly understand politics best serves them
Micro party,s exist because they feed on it
In the end standing opposite each other throwing insults will not work
Politics is the only way a single person can have a say, so let fly with the fear and loathing but if, and it is an if,voters are not as dumb as you think we one day may see policy not rubbish be produced to win elections

The truth will come out eventually.

A Labor government could gift permanent residency to almost 10,000 asylum seekers who arrived in Australia illegally.

Labor's national conference in Adelaide this weekend will consider a motion to end offshore processing of boat arrivals by scrapping 'indefinite detention' on Manus Island and Nauru.

Under the left faction's proposal, thousands of asylum seekers would be granted permanent protection in Australia should Labor win next year's federal election as widely predicted by opinion polls.

The end result would be permanent residency for asylum seekers, with full work and welfare rights.

Inner Melbourne-based left faction Labor backbencher Ged Kearney, a former ACTU leader, is leading the charge to end offshore detention, putting her at odds with Labor leader Bill Shorten.

'Labor's goal must be to get everyone held in offshore detention to safety and build a framework that could mean nobody actually has to go to offshore-processing facilities,' Kearney wrote in the party's left faction Challenge.

Mr Shorten, who hails from the right faction, said on Monday the ALP was committed to 'turning boats back where it is safe to do so.'

'This government should have done more to resettle people elsewhere around the world than they have, and that's what we'll do.'

Mr Shorten predicted the left faction's radical proposals would be unsuccessful on the floor of the national conference.

Home Affairs Minister Peter Dutton said Labor's left faction proposal smacked of ignorance.

'Labor's reckless border failures have cost our country dearly,' Mr Dutton told The Australian.

'Cleaning up the dreadful mess of 50,000 illegal arrivals is costing us hundreds of millions of dollars a year, and will for years to come — money that could otherwise have been spent on Australians, but is sucked up dealing with these people.

'It's frightening that Labor has clearly learned nothing and is ready to do it again.

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Temporary protection visas, reintroduced by the Coalition in 2013, allow illegal boat arrivals to stay in Australia until it is deemed safe to return home.

There have been more than 64,000 applications for protection visas since 2015 from people who arrived legally on a plane.

Senior Labor frontbenchers have dismissed suggestions an ugly stoush on border protection could overshadow the ALP's national conference, as the Coalition zeros in on the issue.

Tanya Plibersek, federal Labor's deputy leader who hails from the Left faction, is throwing her support behind Mr Shorten at the expense of her own ideological supporters within her party.

'Offshore processing and boat turn backs, yes I support current Labor policy,' the inner-Sydney based MP said.

'But I also believe we can get people off Manus and Nauru. I believe we can bring more people here and bring them safely.'

Senior Labor frontbencher Tony Burke, whose western Sydney electorate has Australia's highest proportion of Muslims, was confident there would be no changes to Labor's existing boat turn backs and offshore processing policies.

'There's a debate about these issues every conference,' he told Sky News on Monday.

When Labor was last in government, it abolished temporary protections visas in 2008 soon after coming to power.

It also ended offshore detention on Nauru and Manus Island but this led to a surge in boat arrivals, and included the death of 48 asylum seekers in December 2010 after their illegal vessel attempted to land at Christmas Island.

When Kevin Rudd briefly became prime minister again in 2013, he reinstated offshore processing at Manus Island, in Papua New Guinea, and vowed asylum seekers who arrived by boat would never settle in Australia.

** The fact some politicians want to do this shows there is a problem, no matter what Shorten says. **

Belly,
You often mention the word TRUTH, so how about you admit a truth or two.

Before being elected PM Rudd promised to continue the successful fiscal policies of the Howard government and maintain the tough and successful border protection policies of the Howard government, yet he abandoned both for whatever reason.

PM Gillard also said 'There will not be a carbon tax under a government that I lead' and she abandoned that undertaking.

So straight out admitting these as TRUTHS would be a good start. Come on admit that Labor governments have lied in the past.

There is no reason to expect no lies this time.

Saw this on a article a comment by someone, how true.

Don't you just love how the Labour Party reckon they are for the "working man". Yet virtually none of them have ever had a real job in their life.

PhilipS,
Yes, just like the lawyer and ambulance-chaser infested Liberal Party and most of the Nationals who are "Pitt Street Farmers" and have never worked on the land.

Most politicians are party apparatchiks or ex-staffers and that applies to the all, not just the ALP.