Dear Belly,

I really admire you greatly for being able to
see things from different perspectives.
Thank You.

Here is a youtube movie on Uni Notre Dame Professor Patrick Deneen that talks about Liberalism - I'm not sure how good this one is but it's a start.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dLPpqCAPd7Y

Thanks Foxy Canem Malum GEE! that has been the whole point of not just posts here but threads like the third force in Australian politics I started
I know the difference, and know true Liberalism is not even in the bus currently driving this government.
NSW this morning, poll in SMH Labor, *even after it lost its leader* is in a election winning position [to be held near federal one]
Reason given the Federal Liberal party
Sky news, a channel on a mission, to blind voters to the truth, is every day, watch it, keep sick bowel close,
It constantly warns true Liberals they do not exist,,and if they do they are traitors!

Classical Liberalism is evidenced by Same Sex Marriage, High Immigration, Free Society initiatives, but also by Free Trade, Globalisation.

Dear Belly,

Political commentator - Lenore Taylor tells
us in a recent article that -

If the "broad church" Liberals go along with
the right-wing conservatives they will find
themselves in a very narrow Liberal Party indeed.
One that will look a lot more like One Nation with
slightly more professional marketing. Is that really
what they want. What's the point of the Liberal Party
if it just panders to an ever narrowing base?

As for Patrick J. Deneen? An extremely conservative
Catholic American - preaching to like-minded people.
Nothing wrong with that.

Foxy that truth is at the heart of this governments problems
SMH this day has three at least, story's about its trouble, one about the way Banks was handled is telling, Liberals disrespect women, women vote
all in all the center has been ignored by the rabid right and that punches a hole in their boats bottom that will only be fixed after a defeat of historic nature