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Time to fix the magistrates.

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Hi Belly,

Bob Brown is not the Greens, and the Greens are not Bob Brown, two different colours. Although no one did more than Bob in forming the Greens, firstly in Tasmania and then Australia wide, the party owes him a debt of gratitude that is for certain.

I'm not concerned with the 9% Green vote in Vic, of course I would love it to be 15%, the number that I like to see is the overall progressive vote which is around 52%, well ahead of the conservatives. I see no competition between the various progressive parties of which the Labor party is by far the biggest, and the one to form government. Our side of politics, unlike the conservative side needs to remain united with the common goal of seeing good progressive government at all levels.

Interesting, 'Pig Iron' Bob was careful when forming his new party to call it the Liberal party, not the Conservative party. One thing the old bastard did get right was Australians were too egalitarian to accept a class based party like they have in England. By the standards of the day, many party members were liberal, although like all successful parties Bob needed his party to be broad based and accommodate various factions. Now the hard conservative faction is biting the bigger liberal faction on the arse.

BTW. Where is that much touted Corny Banana and his group of fascists, calling themselves The Australian Conservatives, all piss and wind in my book.

p.s I would be very disappointed if the Green vote was 9%, and the Labor vote 30%, then I would be crying.
Posted by Paul1405, Sunday, 25 November 2018 4:02:06 PM
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Individual,

In Victoria we support governments if they do
things that improve our lives. It sounds obvious, but
it can be forgotten in the drama of politics and
campaigns. Daniel Andrews stated in his
victory speech - that his government had focused on the
practical upgrading of hospitals, new schools, the
removal of level crossings, and a huge infrastructure
program. People will overlook many failings if they
see things happening, particularly in a city like
Melbourne straining under record population growth.
If a government lives its values, keeps its promises
and gets things done - well, Victorians will re-elect
that government. It would be stupid not to.

In Queensland - you may prefer to keep your money
out of reach - we prefer to see it spent on essential
services.
Posted by Foxy, Sunday, 25 November 2018 5:11:47 PM
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"If being stupid was an indictable offence Victoria would now be one massive prison."

Sir Joh announced he would take on the Labor socialists in Canberra and destroy them. An inquiry was chaired by Tony Fitzgerald QC and lead to Sir Joh being charged with perjury and the jailing of police commissioner Terry Lewis.

Bids to silence the media.

The cabinet documents revealed the lengths the Queensland government went to pressure media outlets who aired claims of corruption against it. The Courier-Mail's Phil Dickie set off the chain of events by exposing an illegal prostitution racket. Months later ABC TV's Moonlight State, aired on Four Corners, linked the illegal sex trade and government staffers.

Sir Joh had proposed to swap Queensland coal in exchange for Romanian-built trains and oil .In December 1989, Nicolae and Elena Ceausescu were executed by firing squad at a military base in Romania

Controversial development applications went ahead under the recommendation of so-called 'minister for everything' Russ Hinze, with the Queensland government over-ruling local councils to the benefit of developers. Mr Hinze used his power to rezone the Queen Street Mall in Brisbane's CBD without following due process, because the developer feared regular town planning rules would attract objections and delay the project. While it was never written in the cabinet documents, some in the ministry opposed the project and accusations of corruption were levelled against Sir Joh. It would be alleged that he resigned because MPs were set to tell the media that Sir Joh was to receive a bribe if the tower went ahead. Mike Ahern was appointed premier and said "Joh relied for this power on a rigged electoral system that is grossly offensive to fundamental democratic rights."
Posted by nicknamenick, Sunday, 25 November 2018 5:40:55 PM
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Paul not knocking your party but in truth NSW has been a minefield.
Victoria needed even harsher and earlier action on both the rape and other event
Could not have come at a worse time
You know I share your opinion on ultra conservative insanity
Like tea party then Trump, American republicans are filling their party with like minded candidates.
Ultra Liberals are doing that here
Talk of protecting the base[SKY News deception] ignores a truth they walk away from their base
Posted by Belly, Sunday, 25 November 2018 5:45:52 PM
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Indy you are aware your words and stance highlight you not victorian voters
Is everyone wrong but you'
really
truly
think about it
Posted by Belly, Sunday, 25 November 2018 5:48:03 PM
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nicknamenick,
you believe what you wrote ? Do you know why Fitzgerald acted the way he did ?
Don't look like it from what I've heard.
Talk to some older QLD Police Officers.
Posted by individual, Sunday, 25 November 2018 7:19:43 PM
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