The Victorian election I don't think was a rejection
of law and order. It was more of a rejection of the
low road of fear and division. It was
more on delivery on promises
and not cutting essential services. Victorians
overwhelmingly endorsed a positive and optimistic
plan for the state.

Hi Belly,

Congrats to the Labor Party on a resounding victory yesterday in Vic. Strong Labor vote at 43%. Now for NSW in March, and that hopeless conservative government there. ScuMo and the train wreck in Canberra, calling it a government would be to kind. needs the boot ASAP.

Belly, its not my "because he votes green" I held the same opinions when I voted Labor, as do many Labor voting civil libertarians agree. I'm in favour of justice for all, victims and perpetrators. I see jail as the last option, or when there is no reasonable alternative. Keeping people out of jail by not having them re-offend is the best course of action, but sadly many commit crime because they have little else in life. Young offenders starting out, should be given better alternatives through education, training and job opportunities.

The lock em' up and throw away the key mentality does nothing to reduce crime, if social factors are breeding more criminals by the day. The US is a perfect example of a mostly affluent society, but with great social divides between its citizens. The US has tough penalties for offenders, that is a fact, but it also has a very high crime rate compared to others. The crime rate is a result of social injustice, not because of it.

Foxy and Paul, lets be frank, first my thought is and remains, fear and loathing is the first tool used by conservatives
And that they put massive effort in to the Labor is weak on law and order, it failed
A thread may get a run, about the election, here the frankness starts.
It remains my firm view the Liberal right is far out in front of its voters
Too that only in Queensland, the birth place of one nation, is that right salable
I fear but believe a day will come when small l Liberals again run their party they will be extremely hard to remove.
Paul age has bought different view to me,I think center path in all things is best.
You like us all, cop heaps because of our views about politics
on a bad night last night, you still out poll the Nationals and usually one nation out side QLD
Leadership let you down,like NSW a question must be answered is your party currently reflecting what Bob Brown wanted it to?

If being stupid was an indictable offence Victoria would now be one massive prison.

Individual,

On the contrary. Fear campaigns and that kind of rhetoric
does not convince the more sophisticated electorates of
Victoria. Those tactics alienate people in this state.
Perhaps you're thinking of Queensland?

Foxy,
really ? sophisticated ? And, where will those sophisticated move to after the VIC Labor economy is in tatters again ?

Yep, you guessed it, they all migrate to Qld & wreck our job market again as per usual.