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Pakistan what to do

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I feel two monsters, standing behind me looking over my shoulder
PC that murderer of honest speech is both of them
It on one hand would stop honest debate on this subject.
On the other try to harm this forum because of my words
HONESTLY till death I will fight the blind hate Islamophobia .
Just think, in hating a whole faith we are just a bad if not worse than that group.
BUT some very big effort needs to be made by that faith, and us, to change the race to war.
Multiculturalism is not as good as integration.
Tell me the fifth generation Greeks from Melbourne rebuilding fire ravaged Greek homes are not too Australians
Why did we have to see a request that migrants adopt our ways turned in to this world wide destructive mess.
We if we are to avoid that war must demand an end to that VILE BUT an end to the he/she was insane,lie and too an end to forever and ever social security without a return to this country.
Hate will not do it, firmer demands on people, even deportation can
Posted by Belly, Sunday, 11 November 2018 4:30:59 AM
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Belly.

I don't understand what your comment on Sunday, 11 November 2018 4:15:17 AM, is about. If that from a different thread, and if so where. It's also hard to get who's talking and being quoted, or when your responding to them.

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As for having the ability to talk freely about this subject. What I've come to understand is that

1). The support of Islam and Muslims has it's points based on giving people a chance; that Islam is a minority and therefore needs protecting; and/or that Islamaphobia is a real thing and should be faught against.

2). The side that is against Islam and Muslims has it's points on the dangers that are seen and reported on, on the issues within Islam that might (or does) encourage the terrorism, rape and general crime that is part of the reports; and on the realization that if Islam is bad and creates these bad people, then it should be stood against and possibly feared.

PC only exists when one side says the other side has no right to say certian things, and to restrict what their saying. A long time ago this wasn't a bad thing it was just society trying to be polite and not push eachother's buttons. Now a days, not talking about a subject is the place of PC, instead of just to not be rude when talking about it.

But in order to really get through an issue sometimes it's needed to listen to people's anger and hate to find solutions. (Think of any argument that married people have).
Posted by Not_Now.Soon, Sunday, 11 November 2018 4:52:57 AM
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... I should have added an explaination.

If a couple have an argument but one person is not allowed to voice their side, it will just fume inside of them. And won't resolve anything. Or they will break the rules to not talk about it even angrier that they were told to not to say what the real issues were.

That's essentially the dynamic of PC. Except PC is on a sociatial level instead of just two married people arguing.
Posted by Not_Now.Soon, Sunday, 11 November 2018 5:31:07 AM
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Not-now-soon let me be clear, I do not like this faith
I do not like any faith
But Islam remains in the dark ages
Reason? we invented faiths, to comfort us in the dark, and explain death.
Islam is not a minor faith, as Christianity sheds its followers Islam may, if not now, be the biggest.
WHY? on behalf of a faith that would never let us do it in their countries, should we bend for Islam?
very different practices take place in the very different countrys Islam is seen in.
But again Islamophobia is not the answer, stronger action on active terrorists, their support base and those who preach hate in our countries is
Posted by Belly, Sunday, 11 November 2018 10:41:50 AM
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" I don't recall John Lennon putting the boot into the disabled."

Nor do I.

Women on the other hand....
"I used to be cruel to my woman, I beat her and kept her apart from the things that she loved".

Apparently things were 'Getting Better' but not so much for Cynthia or Julian.
Posted by mhaze, Sunday, 11 November 2018 2:10:51 PM
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Belly,

"But again Islamophobia is not the answer, stronger action on active terrorists, their support base and those who preach hate in our countries is"

That's getting mighty close to outright Islamophobia.

While ever the Koran exists Islam is the enemy.
Posted by Is Mise, Sunday, 11 November 2018 3:30:17 PM
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