So Foxy are you going to be at the Demonstration against the moslims opinion of Gay people, or what?

To Belly. I hope I'm wrong but based on your latest comments, I'm thinking Individual had it right calling this conversation just trying to stir things up.

To David. Everyone needs redeeming. You might not like that but it's the truth. Some people just are actually appreciative when they are helped. Usually it's only those who realize they need it, that are appreciative. Something to think about.

Jayb,

I need more information on what you're talking
about.

Dear NNS,

You wrote, "Everyone needs redeeming. You might not like that but it's the truth. Some people just are actually appreciative when they are helped. Usually it's only those who realize they need it, that are appreciative. Something to think about."

You want people to appreciate your arrogance in thinking you can redeem others? One meaning of redeeming is "able to save people from sin, error, or evil."

You are going to save others from sin, error and evil? If you think that, you are not the least bit humble.

Some Christians are humble, do not sit in judgment on other people and do not decide for others whether they need redemption. There are verses in the New Testament addressing that point.

Matthew 7:1 Judge not, that ye be not judged. 2 For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again. 3 And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye? 4 Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye; and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye? 5 Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye.

Not only do some Christians avoid making judgments, but they are aware that one cannot neatly divide the world into good and bad people. Such a Christian was Solzhenitsyn who wrote:

“If only it were all so simple! If only there were evil people somewhere insidiously committing evil deeds, and it were necessary only to separate them from the rest of us and destroy them. But the line dividing good and evil cuts through the heart of every human being. And who is willing to destroy a piece of his own heart?”

Look to yourself and your own arrogance before you decide that you are going to redeem others.

Not-Now-Soon please explain, we agree on much, in fact I believe in Karma.
But why would I start a thread to stirr things up.
Why too would I not say what I think in any thread.
Can we talk about hate without highlighting what we see as cases of it in use.
Not a Christian, but fully understand a lot, not near every thing, written in any holly book, are wise and rules to live by.
However committed followers rarely do live by them.
So yes show me how hate ever delivered an out come we thought was good.
BUT NEVER blind us to the very real invention and use of hate by some, to win support.
Will we ever see a group push for an end to all hate, push for another way to resolve issues?
IF we do, someone like you may say they only bought the subject up to? stir things up!
extraordinary stuff not-now-soon

Hi Foxy, Is mise said in another Post that a Mass Protest by Radicals was going to happen soon. The Do Gooders/Lefties/Greenies/Maxist & Commos are going to demonstrate against the moslim stance on Gays. Apparently they are currently looking for a venue.

Is Mise: <the only problem is finding somewhere safe; somewhere where the Moslems can't see them. I heard that TV rights are being discussed but a stumbling block is that the organizers want all faces blurred out, naturally, the TV mob are objecting to this as full coverage would ensure retaliation and a rise in ratings.>

Further information coming maybe. So is this considered Hate by the Do-gooder/Lefty/Greenie/Marxist & Commo against the moslems & their stance against Gays or Hate by the Moslems against the Gays per se?