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Is Hate an Answer or a symptom

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•don't look at it from a perspective of getting even and serving justice on who wronged you. Instead look at it from a perspective of redeeming them.

David your counter point is that it's arrogant to try to redeem another, and instead to not do it. However throughout our lives being redeemed is what we all need. Consider a child. Their parents love him, but if he lies, hits other kids, or takes toys away from them it's up to the parent to correct their son. In that way from even an early age we are redeemed from a bad behavior to be taught in ways to make up good, responsible adults by the time we leave the parent's nest.

Later on in life most people screw something up. Teens wreck a car, anger flares, or inexperience on something makes you try to "fix" something that really ends up breaking it or harming it. In those instances there are several ways to redeem a person from their failures. And by redeem I mean that they are no longer counted against that person, nor does the person keep on doing the same thing. Whether it's facing a consequence, forgiving them, or trying to teach them a better way to be, the effort to make each of us better is a consistent part of our lives. If we focus on that aspect to redeem each other instead of getting back at them, then we solve a huge chunk of the issues relating to hate. However if you realize you can't do this, then let them go, and walk away from them. Have nothing to do with them.

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Posted by Not_Now.Soon, Sunday, 28 October 2018 2:23:29 AM
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•Treat others the way you want to be treated.

Your counter thought is to treat people the way they want to be treated instead. Two thoughts. One Nicknamednick already brought up. Knowing how they want to be treated and acting accordingly is actually part of treating them the way you want to be treated, because we all want that from others as well.

Second thought is that it's not practical to just keep asking people if it's ok to do this or do that. Honestly if I needed anyone's permission to give them my kindness, too often they would say no because no one likes to admit they need help or ask for help. Instead, if you are kind to them because you know you would want kindness, then too often they will appreciate it. So in reaction to your view to treat others the way they want to be treated, Here's my view. You don't need another's permission to be kind to them. Nor do you need to interview them to know how to be kind to them. Just treat them how you want to be treated. If you are honest to yourself on how you'd like to be treated in that situation then it'll be a rare time when it isn't received well.
Posted by Not_Now.Soon, Sunday, 28 October 2018 2:26:55 AM
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It is my honest opinion Trump farms hate, that he uses it to gain and keep support.
Too that in using it he divides America
Can some one tell me the positive out comes of hate, any hate any positives.
Yet again this morning, 4 dead multiple injures in a Jewish place of worship.
Hate
OK some of us are concerned at Israels actions on its boarders,killing unarmed protesters, is hate, with them or against them, going to have a good out come?
How can hate, any hate, unite the world.
Just maybe we lost our way, [all humanity] and need to think about ways to achieve better out comes
Posted by Belly, Sunday, 28 October 2018 5:13:44 AM
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JayB
The Karen Christians in Myanmar kill Buddhists. What will you do about gay abusing gun-owning leftie bank-executive anti-muslim church
movie-pirates?

Davidf,
The apostle John was still going around the year 90 and wrote Revelation inspired by Jesus. Paul had retired about 30 years previously.
Posted by nicknamenick, Sunday, 28 October 2018 6:28:49 AM
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Df: The Jewish followers of Jesus that Paul persecuted were wiped out in the failed Jewish revolt against the Romans.

No, that didn’t happen until after the Nicene Council when the Pauline Bishops went on a Crusade & killed all the Bishops of the Churches started by the Disciples. Around 350 AD.

Df: The people around now who call themselves Christians have the religion started by Paul. It is not the same religion as the religion of the Jewish followers of Jesus that Paul persecuted.

Yes, Paul was kicked out of the Disciples Church in Jerusalem in about 45 AD. by the disciples. He then left Jerusalem & started his own mission.

What’s this got to do with the Hate subject.

Belly: It is my honest opinion Trump farms hate, that he uses it to gain and keep support.

I don’t think he does in the way you think. The hate from the Democrats was there well before he was elected. It got worse after he was elected. Democrats = Labor. In America they take everything to extremes. Especially the Democrats. Sour grapes & Hate on the part of the Democrats.

Nnk: The Karen Christians in Myanmar kill Buddhists.

Yes, there have been a few clashes because the Buddhists (different Tribal Group) have been encroaching on Karen Traditional areas. Nothing to do with Religion or Hate. It’s purely in defence of Tribal Territory.

Nnk: What will you do about gay abusing gun-owning leftie bank-executive anti-muslim church.

You got me there. I haven’t a clue what you are on about.
Posted by Jayb, Sunday, 28 October 2018 8:28:51 AM
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JayB
Are you saying Paul had a hit-squad in Rome for jihad against the infidel followers of Peter ?
The Papal Basilica of St. Paul , is one of Rome's four ancient, papal, major basilicas. Pope John Paul explained that Paul wore a suicide vest in a martyr attack on Peter whose bones were then available for church-building.

"1948 the KNU demanded an independent Karen-Mon state which would surround Rangoon.. On Christmas Eve a locally raised ethnic Burman Sitwundan group threw handgrenades into a church in Palaw, killing eighty Christian Karen. The following weeks hundreds of Karen were murdered by Sitwundan and Socialist groups for which KNDO troops starting retaliating. The Kayin People's Party (KPP) was created in early 2010, predominantly set up by Christian Karen from Yangon and Irrawaddy river delta regions ".

Keep Christians out of your local community.
Posted by nicknamenick, Sunday, 28 October 2018 9:08:55 AM
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