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Is Hate an Answer or a symptom

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Or do you hate missionaries because you disagree with the message itself? This seems to be the truth of the matter, because in our discussions you've either tried to counter and silence any and every position I can stand on. Or on a more personal level you attempt to ridicule and call names. Try and silence by berating them. Looking back one consistent thing is that you have continually tried to silence Christian views and specifically silence me.

I do not know what I have done to you besides having a different outlook. But that is apparently enough to to not live and let live.

Here in regards to hate, I will testify. Instead of life and let live (which is an alright philosophy) I believe to reach out and help one another. Be part of each other's lives and share your own life with them. In that way you can treat others the way you want to be treated; and both you and the other person can hold each other accountable. Or put another way. As Iron sharpens iron, one man sharpens another. By being exposed to other groups and being kind to them you reduce the hatred that group would have towards you, and the same is true to the other group's influence for you to not hate them.

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Posted by Not_Now.Soon, Friday, 2 November 2018 1:03:30 AM
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Live and let live is good only as a partial philosophy. So to not try force another to your position. On a larger scale of behavior, a better position to incorporate is to "live together." Look after one another, help one another, even to care enough to correct each other if they do something to harm themselves or harm others. To do nothing when there is something to affect them or another, shows you really don't care. "Live and let live" is only good as a partial philosophy to not over dominate another person (one that you haven't lived by in OLO), but it should not be applied as a means to silence each other, because you don't want to live with them. Trying to silence is how you've treated me, and I assume many other Christians that hold strong to their beliefs.

Live by the words you said earlier, or if you can't, acknowledge that you can't and stop trying rationalize yourself as still keeping that position; as well as stop trying to force others to live and let live to a degree that you yourself will not abide by. Live and let live should not be a cop out when your views are challenged. If it is to be lived by then do it! Don't wait for me to do it for you, do it on your own. I will live as I see is right, and unless someone comes by to correct how it's wrong (when and if it is wrong) I will continue to live by those standards. As someone who has been wrong several times in life, I am grateful that there have been people to point out an error I was unaware of. So that I can grow to be a better person and mature into a better man. Ifuntil their words have merit then hopefully I can consider them. Even if they don't have merit, then at least they tried to help me by caring enough to say something.
Posted by Not_Now.Soon, Friday, 2 November 2018 1:15:34 AM
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To Belly.

I'm sorry, but I must not have been clear. I didn't mean that to fix hatred two sides come together to talk it out and compromise. If there is real hatred then sitting down and talking it out is already likely too far to reach. No what I meant is that when someone is angry with you, consider each word they say. They will say more that are our faults and our failures at that time then they will most other times. And if the complaints they make are justified, then to resolve the hatred is on us more then them. If the issues can't be resolved, then at least you can know where they are really coming from. And in time a solution might present itself to help the issue, or when things are cooled down you can explain yourself and help them see that there isn't a reason to stay angry.

Once hatred is confronted, and the issues that caused the hatred are at least partially addressed, then sitting at a table and talking it out hopefully will work.

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Posted by Not_Now.Soon, Friday, 2 November 2018 2:06:18 AM
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For the left, the issue as I understand it is being conned and swindled. Being deceitful and having a bait and switch approach when coming to politics and causes to support. And to be over dominating. Basically saying that our views are right and you must listen to us, and your thoughts are thoughtless and uneducated. If the left listens to these complaints then perhaps there might be a place to resolve the issues.

For the right, the issues I understand it are about being focused on money, and with that the implication of only supporting the very rich and the greedy. With that in mind the right is given the accusation of being hard, hateful, and greedy. And unfortunately, this part feeds the reasoning that the left's views are better, one last part of the complaint against the right is to be essentially evil.

For the Muslim refugees, the main issues as I understand them come with the danger of terrorism; the worry of turning a western nation into a pit of crime, murder and rape; the unwillingness to accept their new home as it is, or to be part of it; and the differences of culture and how they treat women or other populations outside of themselves.

For the western societies refugees move to, I doubt I understand the issues completely. But from the little I have, here are my thoughts. They have run from their own homes, abandoned their countries and left to try for a better place to live. From this I'm sure they think they've given up too much already, and don't want to give up their culture and religion as well. It's also an unfortunate issue that the homes they run to, they often reject wholeheartedly and don't want to live as the country they move to lives. Which only adds to the issue mentioned before of the unwillingness to accept the homes they move to.

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Posted by Not_Now.Soon, Friday, 2 November 2018 2:09:45 AM
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These are 4 groups that show hatred in their politics and in the smaller groups of extremists. Left leaning environmental terrorists, and a general unrest of protests (some turn violent), right leaning hate groups, Muslim hate groups and terrorists, and a country to open it's arms to you but have select groups hate you before even knowing you. All 4 of the groups have hatred and in turn have those in them turn to violence and extremists.

In my opinion the best answer to hatred is to confront where we've done wrong, repent (sorrow for what was done and seek to make it right), and turn from our sins (turn to not do the wrongs anymore). The second thing we can do, is to stop hatred within ourselves. To forgive those who wrong us when they apologize and try to right the wrong. Or if they don't do that and the wrong was bad enough. Let them go, and have little or nothing to do with them.

Hope that makes more sence.
Posted by Not_Now.Soon, Friday, 2 November 2018 3:36:18 AM
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nns your views are wide and deep some times hard to find agreement.
I think, maybe wrong , what you saw as hate of missionary is merely holding them to account
See they with the full on thought they and only they knew what was good for people brought a foreign culture, often with stick in hand, to destroy others culture.
I suspect many, right throughout history, never believed in the God that paid their wages
How else could the centurys old molestation of children take place.
I it irrational, in a thread about hate, to hate or dislike, some one who refuses to support a faith, any faith, in a world that increasingly questions the truth behind that faith.
Posted by Belly, Friday, 2 November 2018 5:07:06 AM
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