Hi o sung wu,

"Should you not believe any of that PAUL1405" You give me no reason not to believe what you say. It makes no difference anyway.

I would not argue about the Vietnam War, if I was you, history has not been kind to those Australians who prosecuted and supported that particularly grubby war. In fact when Whitlam was elected the warmongers such as yourself, were well and truly in the minority. You must have hated a lot of your fellow Australians at that time.

Coppers and the Vietnam War; Large numbers of ordinary Australians protested Australia's involvement in that despicable war through Moratorium Marches held in all capital cities in 1970/71, numbers exceed 100,000. I am proud to say I took part in those protests as a young 19 year old. I personally witnessed pigs, members of the NSW Police Force who on command, remove their badges, and without incitement or the slightest provocation baton charged protesters, beating young girls and others around the head, arms, legs etc, dragging many who were little older than children by the hair to paddy wagons. Not surprisingly I witnessed these pigs being assisted to make arrest by well known thugs, members of the Australian Nazi Party, who would join in with relish as able helpers of the coppers. o sung wu where were you in those days, and where was your badge, in your pocket like those of other "good" coppers. Should you not believe any of that o sung wu, I couldn't care less.

http://www.abc.net.au/archives/80days/stories/2012/01/19/3411534.htm

And to think I called a rogue copper a dingo on this thread. tut tut my friend. In my opinion Dingo E, and his cohorts in crime, have been extended far more latitude in investigation than any ordinary citizen could reasonably expect under the circumstances, anonymity and closed hearings to give in camera evidence. Months of investigation and examination by very senior council, the average Joe arrested by the likes of Dingo E would receive swift justice given the evidence presented, at the hands of the magistrate, all of one day if so lucky.

PAUL1405...

As I said, only you know whether your dodged Conscription out of fear or rank cowardice. Some years ago on an ANZAC day I was speaking with a Naval Officer who was a Psychologist. We spoke about Conscription, as well as the public's perception of it. He reckoned many of those who cited being against the war, claiming they were Conscience Objector; as sufficient reason why they shouldn't be called up; were in many cases, just a ploy. Yes a ploy.

Not you PAUL1405, you cleverly managed to dodge conscription, you did advice us all last time, how you did it? Your were so 'proud' of your ability to beat the system. Yet there were many similar to you, who simply accepted their lot, and went on to become magnificent soldiers. The many Conscience Objectors that were conscripted, were interviewed. And after Basic Training, most were inducted into the Medical corps, or other areas that were essentially non-combatant by nature, where most served with considerable honour.

I remember my own repatriation, waiting for our Qantas Charter to jet us back home after our 12 months in country. There were a group of newbod's arriving at Vung Tau, deplaning through the rear door of their Hercules C-130. They were hit first, by this impenetrable wall of heat, and this stifling, acrid smell of aviation fuel, together with the screaming noise of US F105's taking off for another sortie, to who know's where? All these new blokes were wide eyed, looking about them utterly stunned, with expressions of a mix of fear and apprehension on their faces, just as we'd done 12 months earlier.

Not you PAUL1405, you'd never enjoy such camaraderie, enveloped as you were, in your nauseating efforts to elude & sidestep your own Conscription? I'd enjoy watching you try to justify to a group of Vets, just how you managed to avoid conscription? I reckon they'd run you out of town?

Hi o sung wu,

Changing the interpretation, now according to you there is only "fear or rank cowardice" for as you put it dodging conscription.
As your stupidly got my sexuality wrong you may have got this wrong as well.
Wise ass, I didn't dodge conscription, like thousands of others I did not register. The odds of being conscripted in the warmongers unlucky lottery was 1 in 7. If like me, you failed to register, the penalty was, wait for it, you were automatically conscripted! I was CONSCRIPTED, no unlucky lottery, no hiding out in grannies loo. Well blow me down, if I had been a little bit smarter, I should have registered, took my chances in the unlucky lottery, most likely not being called up at all, and in the unlikely event of my birth date being drawn, then and only then, dodge conscription by hiding out in grannies loo. What did the warmonger government actually do with the vast majority, more than 99%, who did not register. The answer is, wait for it, NOTHING, absolutely nothing. Why, because they knew if they tried to lock up thousands of young men they would have insurrection on their already bloodied hands.

"Some years ago on an ANZAC day I was speaking with a Naval Officer who was a Psychologist.' Were you both pissed at the time? Maybe you got this wrong as well, could he have been a psychopath, and not a psychologist. With all the screw balls in the military I could see a high demand for the services of a psychologist.

"taking off for another sortie, to who know's where?" Most likely to bomb and kill innocent Vietnamese children in their villages, they did a lot of that sort of thing. Nothing like getting together for a bit of camaraderie after a hard days killing is there

PAUL1405...

You're a very bitter, angry man aren't you! Whichever way you cut it mate, you dodged it! I reckon we all know the reason why; in your case cowardice - that's why you're so bitter and twisted calling Vets war mongers and baby killers, in an attempt to shield and assuage your own guilty conscience for wriggling out of conscription. I reckon most of us now understand what it was, PAUL1405 - you're a coward!

Being the pseudo noble, albeit cowardly soul you are - why not a non-combatants role? Or are they just as guilty as the rest of us war-mongers? You know something; my little mate, you and Sarah HANSON-YOUNG make a fine 'intellectual' pair - save for one important difference; she has the guts to sell her's and her Party's policies, which take courage. And courage is not part of your vocabulary is it?

No sir, your style is to snipe at others labelling everyone with abusive epithets? And that my friend, is the hallmark of a lousy coward. I just can't find the words of disgust, and utter revulsion I have for you, and your kind! A Mr Simon TOWNSEND quickly comes to mind. Every single one of us were scared shitless at the prospect of being killed, but we went, nevertheless.

I always wondered why you attacked police, with this spurious and phoney outrage at police brutality and other injustices. And sure, they deserve it in some cases I couldn't agree more! Language like 'Pigs' (your favourite), 'maggots', and 'dogs', these are the descriptor's employed by criminals to describe coppers? Perhaps PAUL1405, you're a criminal?

Nah, you wouldn't have the guts to be even a petty 'tea leaf'. No you're the type to hide among a thong of noisy demonstrators, yelling and abusing anything and everything - another mark of cowardice; enshrouding yourself among the noisy assemblage. Oh you reckon you're quite a guy, how in hell can you look at yourself in the mirror, and call yourself a man? You may be part of the wider male gender, however...tch tch tch ?

yep the Greens are those enjoying a good free life while crapping on those who gave it to them.

Hi o sung wu,

I will attempt to address your comments, as best I can.
"You're a very bitter, angry man (paul405) aren't you!" No I do not believe so, I have nothing to be angry or bitter about, such thing are in the past, and cannot be changed.

"I reckon we all know" I assume you use the we to gain comfort in the though that others would agree with you. Who are the "we".

"Perhaps PAUL1405, you're a criminal?" No, I could throw something equally derogatory back at you, but that would make me as childish as you are.

The two warmonger references were clearly directed at the government of the day, and not you. Comprehension problem old salt