"Woman's horror injuries after being mauled by dingoes
Yahoo7 News22 July 2018

GRAPHIC CONTENT WARNING: A West Australian fly-in-fly-out worker has been mauled by a pack of dingoes in the state’s north.

The woman was doing security work for a shut down at the Telfer mine site, in the East Pilbara, where she was attacked.

The 52-year-old victim said she was eating in a designated safe area when one of the animals grabbed her mobile phone.

She followed it and it was then attacked and mauled by three dingoes.

Still standing, the woman tried to fight the animals while screaming for help."

http://au.news.yahoo.com/womans-horror-injuries-mauled-dingoes-123222751.html

This should be a warning to people who frequent our National Parks which are havens for dingoes and other wild dogs.

Ambulance chasing, Is Mise?

What is the world coming to?

No, Toni, merely bring to the attention of my friends on OLO the dangers that lurk in parts of Australia, of course, it did cross my mind that she might have saved herself if she had been allowed something with which to protect herself, some means of self defence, but as we all know that is not allowed by law.

Now Toni,

Why don't you realize that if the little lady in question had an AK47 in her lunch box those dingo's would not have laid a hand, I should say paw, on her mobile phone. Who were they trying to call? Ernie Dingo?

Please Toni, you have to understand! Let me enlighten you about the terrible incident that I was involved in on the bus just the other day. I, being the reasonable chap I am, rang the bell well before my stop. The bus failed to pull up at my appointed destination, I immediately rushed forward and informed the drive in the most gentle of tones, "AH! Fut face you missed me fut'n STOP." All I got from the fat c was "Sorry mate, I'll drop you here." Well "Not fut'n good enough! I said "Back this shat wagon up to MY STOP, NOW." The dingo refused, now if I had my trusty fully loaded M16 with me, that bloke would be in bus drive heaven, where he belongs. All I could do was get off and walk the 30 meters back to my stop. See, its all those feminists pinko, man hating bus drivers with their political correctness, that is the reason Australia is no longer great! I personally blame the Muslims myself for the shocking behavior of bus drivers.

Issy, you'll be please to know, that pack of dingoes that attacked the boy at Byron Bay back in January, the recommendation is criminal prosecution of Dingo E. The rest of them involved should be sacked. Lets hope the Chief Dingo is not to busy handing out free gun licences to murders to do the right thing by the boy and the people of NSW.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-07-23/nsw-police-officer-could-face-legal-action-over-byron-bay-arrest/10024932

//No, Toni, merely bring to the attention of my friends on OLO the dangers that lurk in parts of Australia

Really? Because it did sound an awful lot like you're trying to use this poor woman's unfortunate experience to score cheap political points against the National Parks & Wildlife Service.

You know, doing the exact thing that you're always telling others they shouldn't do. I think you might just be a hypocrite, Is Mise.

And you are drawing quite a long bow there, Is Mise. She wasn't attacked in a National Park and there are (obviously) plenty of wild dogs outside National Parks. Still, why let those inconvenient facts stand in the way of having a crack at the NPWS? Those big meanies won't you play with your toys in their parks, so phooey to them. How amazingly petty and childish you can be at times.

Fact is the Dingo, first one, took a liking to food she was eating, most of us who come from the bush know others feed such as these and bring them in to close contact with humans, best not to do that

That dingo took my mother:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=coPevaETtnM

"Fact is the Dingo, first one, took a liking to food she was eating,"

and grabbed the phone to order more via Uber Eats.

As I expected, lots of sympathy and Paul pushing his usual line of Green tinged lies and pseudo humour.
Did you have a good laugh at the videos, Paul?

The fact is that she wasn't allowed anything with which to defend herself and surely, as a woman doing a lonely job she should be legally allowed something

Toni,

There certainly are dingoes and wild dogs outside of National Parks but not in such concentrations, do you deny that our National Parks are breeding grounds for feral animals?
If you do, then have a talk to farmers who enjoy the NPs as neighbours.

To be honest, I don't know a lot about the behaviour of Dingo's or any other wild canine to be found in the Oz bush. But common sense would dictate you don't ever feed them, as they're not your usual domesticated pooch, you find waiting attentively for you, to arrive home from work.

But as an ex copper, I would respectfully ask what a 52 year old women was doing alone, at a decommissioned mine site, way out in the never never without any means of self protection? What does that say about her employer's, 'duty of care'? Believe me, there are many very strange and drug/drink addled individuals who roam these outback Sites, occasioning all sorts of mischief, from stripping copper and aluminium from disused structures, up to and including murder.

If I was the 52 year old, I'd sue the 'bejesus' out of the employer, without question. Imagine if you will, some fool leaving a 52 year old women alone, miles from anywhere, without any means of self protection - We've gone bloody mad in this country.

City people in the bush are often fun, ridiculous is more like it, they blow the horn at cattle Kangaroos and any wildlife then wait till the animal gives way she should sue her boss, probably will, but take care in the bush, if you intend to chase wildlife ask can you run as fast as it

"... if you intend to chase wildlife ask can you run as fast as it"

Faster!

Issy, truthfully I couldn't be bothered watching your flicks. Your if it moves, shoot it attitude, is well known on the forum. Something about 'designated safe area', well was the sign in Dingo as well as English, if not, why not.

No comment on the dingo copper, who bashed the poor kid at Byron. You raved on at the time just how hard done by he was, the copper not the kid. With luck that pig should be put in the pen where he belongs.

See another gunnie has been blasting away at innocent folk, this time in Canada.

"See another gunnie has been blasting away at innocent folk, this time in Canada."

A Muslim gunnie apparently. As usual the police have no idea as to motive!!

Paul,

"Issy, truthfully I couldn't be bothered watching your flicks"

They weren't my 'flicks' but from newsrooms, you ought to have watched them, might have given you some new ideas for sick jokes at the poor woman's expense.

" Your if it moves, shoot it attitude, is well known on the forum."

Is that so?

Care to back up your ridiculous assertion?

//do you deny that our National Parks are breeding grounds for feral animals?//

No, I deny that it's relevant to this case.

Toni,

Good, at least you are becoming aware and whilst it is not strictly relevant to this case it is timely to warn people that there are concentrations of wild canines in our National Parks and there is always the potential for trouble.

I have been stalked by wild dogs in the bush and it is not a nice experience, but killing one of them deters the rest; not always an option though.

PAUL1405...

Gee's I'm getting sick of you calling police; 'pigs & dingo copper's' and other derogatory terms. Where they've done wrong, call 'em out by all means, but drop the additional derogatory terms you are so fond of using. You want to play that game, go for it mate, believe me if I were to start on you my friend, I'd be expelled from OLO and the Forum. You would be surprised just how many nasty names the Maori have among the community. Not once have I ever referred to them in any other manner, but with respect. You might feel you're some sort of cool dude - you're not.

I've tried to treat you and yours with respect, why don't you extend me the same courtesy. Instead of coming the friggin' dog act trying to be the big man, and sniping from a position of anonymity.

o sung wu,

Don’t blow your usual gentlemanly demeanour on St.Paul. What do you expect from a Green whose role models are de Natale, Hanson-Young and Bandt?

As for the woman tasted by the dingos, who cares. This is another example of a woman not taking responsibility for her own safety. To the bed wetters who would say that’s ‘blaming the victim’: yes, I am blaming the victim, you clots. Dingos are wild animals; they act like wild animals. It isn't their fault.

Don’t put my name down for flowers.

//there are concentrations of wild canines in our National Parks//

there are concentrations of wild canines in our National Parks, Crown land, private property, State Forests, etc.

Fixed.

While you took offense o sung wo that police officer should serve time in prison, his act blackened good cops every one of them

ALL police from the Commissioner down if they do the wrong thing, they should pay, and pay handsomely. As I've had to cop it on several occasions, with a loss of pay and a threat of suspension, for a number of seperate allegation's of my being a little too rough during an arrest situation at several, well reported demonstrations. Both complainants were young 'women', more or less?

Why do you reckon I used to walk about, among the 'sh.t' of Darlinghurst, and around the infamous 'Wall' nearby, on the prowl for the many 'rock spiders' trying to seek our young boys selling themselves? Always with my hands firmly planted in my pocket?

As many of you know I was pro pug in my earlier career in the police, fighting prelim's at South's Juniors and Ringside TV in Melbourne. Before I was allowed even to 'tape up' I was first warned by the Commissioners delegate if you bring one shred of bad light or embarrassment on the NSW Police Force, your permission to take part in professional bouts will be immediately withdrawn, and be assured, internal disciplinary proceedings will follow.

What I'm trying to say in my own pathetic way, despite what many of the public perceive as cops getting away with virtually everything - believe me many don't. And when caught, the official penalties were especially harsh. That's why I was careful NOT to engage in any sort of 'fisty cuffs' unless it was absolutely unavoidable - knowing full well, I'd lose in the court of public opinion.

You see crooked or corrupt police, only make it much tougher for the majority of the troops to do their job's. But the worst feature of all...*is the loss of the public's trust and confidence; both in you as a person, and your office*! Thus making the task of community policing almost impossible.

"See another gunnie has been blasting away at innocent folk, this time in Canada."

Turns out the 'gunnie' was an ISIS supporting Muslim who probably recently visited Afghanistan and Pakistan.

For some reason the usual suspects don't want to talk about the shooting any more...I can't imagine why.

Hi o sung wu,

"Gee's I'm (o sung wu) getting sick of you calling police; 'pigs & dingo copper's' and other derogatory terms." o sung wu police are not sacred cows, or super hero's, deserving of special adulation, they are members of the community who choose policing as their occupation. I have never in broad terms refereed to police as pigs or even dingo's, yes in specific incidences I have referred to particular coppers as such. Officer 'E' is one such copper, BTW those coppers also have the protection of anonymity in these proceedings.

Your personal sledging of me is your prerogative.

As for Maori, why would you simply respect a person because he or she is of a particular race, how condersending. Gee, I know Maori who are absolute bastards, and I have no respect for them at all.

When you were a police officer, and I have no reason to assume you were anything other than an officer of reasonable character. Did you ever hear station banter referring to homosexual men as poofters, faggots, or some such derogatory names? Did you ever witness a "suspect" being ill treated, or another officer acting outside his authority, in your estimation? I am of the belief that in a long career you most likely came across such instances. I am also of the belief you most likely ignored it and turned a blind eye. If you can honestly answer yes, then you have every right to get sanctimonious with me

o sung wo you must not judge me uncaring,in fact many of the local cops know me to be a supporter, and a long sporting life playing my brand of football, mostly in country towns, see ,s me still have police as mates, and yes relatives, we saw this thug, he is that, bash a kid who was handcuffed,a kid with mental health issues, screaming for God to help him, 16 blows, everyone uneeded on a kid not resisting? mate not going too deep in to it,but a midnight bashing, by cops, because I would not look the other way, an unexpected visit from a very senior cop, from ICAC lets me see SOME are just as you know they are, it is wrong to hate cops, most are worth far more than we pay them, but sons and daughters of unwed parents exist in that uniform too, while police did suffer in that investigation my lips remained sealed in the end you can never win if you take on the police, that bashing?both refused a rematch after the ICAC thing

PAUL1405...

Your last paragraph, and the several questions you raised, requiring some sort of response from me?

Derogative comments directed at homosexual men? Yes, often in fact. But in context eg; '...Is cell 4 occupied Sarge?...' '...No mate put him in 2, there's a 'poofter' (non-associate)in 4...'

You must forgive me PAUL1405, I wasn't aware of your 'queer' sexuality until recently, therefore I do understand, you get a little querulous when it involves Gays? However your community does accept the word 'queer' as it's in common usage among your like minded peers.

(ii) Prisoner(s) ill-treated? eg man handled into a cells; dragged out of the back of the police truck; sworn at; strip searched against his will; cuffed up using handcuffs and restraining belt; a decent blue between prisoner v copper; yup, and much more.

People arrested are generally not your normal God fearing, gentle folk. They're abusive; resistive; often filthy, in fact the entire nine yards of human aversion and revulsion, more so than you PAUL1405, could ever imagine, residing as you do in your closeted little world of impassivity and languor. And that includes both sexes, male & female.

Concerning the Maori. I was relieving Detective Sgt I/C (CIB) at Bondi. The first such occasion I ever worked the area. Who do you reckon were the biggest troublemakers? Drunken brawls; assaults; petty theft, the entire ambit of street offences. Not discounting the many domestic violence matters that occurred in there?

Predominantly, most crime was committed by the Maori! They were and are, the single biggest pain in the arse one could ever expect to deal with. Local businesses utterly loathed them. In fact Bondi North was called by some wag; little Palmerston North. What a reputation! - didn't really bother them too much though, why would it, they were always far too intoxicated to worry - unless of course it was their Unemployment pension day at the Bondi Junction Centrelink Office. Many were intractably lazy, preferring instead to live off the Aussie Taxpayer.

Hi there BELLY...

I'm first to admit there ARE corrupt; dirty; and dishonest police. As such, they should be routed right out of the job and suffer the heaviest punishment for their crimes.

BELLY, please indulge me for a moment...Name me one single vocation, occupation, or job that hasn't had the same type of misbehaviour among their ranks, as police? The Church; Medical Profession; perhaps the Angels we have with us, here on earth; our Nurses?

Don't bet on it, the number of Registered and State enrolled Nurses who've committed some atrocious murders, and crimes involving acute cruelty to our aged in nursing homes, will attest to that fact! Generally speaking our Nurses are just that, Angels among us when we're sick and at the point of our demise (if we're lucky of course).

So you can see my friend there is always someone within our vocational ranks, who're going to
let the side down and bring everyone in that industry into disrepute.

Hi o sung wu,

"I (o sung wu) wasn't aware of your (paul405) 'queer' sexuality until recently, therefore I do understand, you get a little querulous when it involves Gays"

Since I am heterosexual with a wife (2nd wife who is Maori and two children, plus grandchildren). Please forgive me if I take your casual observations and generalizations with a grain of salt. Getting one thing wrong, you may well be wrong on other things. Nor am I going to engage in tit for tat nonsense, about Maori in North Bondi or coppers I seen bashing people on mass at protests.
I suspect when you observed bad behavior by other officers you done what any "good" police officer would do, you turned a blind eye.

Police in general are of slightly above average intelligence, most are drawn from the middle socio-economic group in society, most are male, although that is changing, many are above average physically, but significantly younger that other professions. Demand for positions is high, there is no shortage of applicants, although requirements have been broadened in recent times. Police like military personnel exhibit a conservative political bias. The status of police officer has risen significant in society over time, that is not surprising considering like the military the need for professionalism within the ranks has also increased. Remuneration and conditions including job security are well above average, if one compares police to similar occupations based on learning and duties.

At one time corruption was systemic in the police force. Police, like the bloke with his hand in the till down at the local RSL, seen themselves as a special case, getting something extra was seen as legitimate perk of the job, "after all I am special, I'm serving the community." that was the attitude, plus there was no external policing of police and they were all "good" officers, isn't that so o sung wu.

cont

cont

BTW one of my best mates, now deceased, was Crown Sargent at Paddo for years. Lenny was his name, played wing for Souths in his younger days, we often went fishing together.

At his retirement send off an AC said to Len "Well, Len, you and I got our houses through the force." I liked his reply; "You got yours through the force, I worked for mine." Why did you say that; "Because I could then, besides I never liked the bastard anyway."

//Did you ever witness a "suspect" being ill treated, or another officer acting outside his authority, in your estimation? I am of the belief that in a long career you most likely came across such instances. I am also of the belief you most likely ignored it and turned a blind eye.//

Well, yeah. That's how it's done:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WvaMuOanABk

o sung wo mate! yes I think of you as that,prior to my spell in the paddock I requested the then troll, to leave me alone, you took issue with my words, I overlooked it then and still do, bloke re read your and Paul's words, yes you took offense, was it at Paul? his politics? or indeed his description of a bad cop? YES! every group industry or what ever had bad people in it! how then do we handle one in our own group? I read my post history, TARGET THEM right now one of my partys people is almost certainly guilty of very very poor behavior, if I did not demand her head? I would be a fraud! Paul has every right to be a green supporter, and like the very best of us,,, to be offended by a man who should be in prison not a police uniform, because o sung wo IF WE ALWAYS do not demand better in such cases we are worthless

Also, this:

http://img.memecdn.com/Police-medic_o_10925.jpg

Sometimes you just gotta laugh. It helps take your mind off the fear that that a pack of these thugs could be lying in wait for you around the next street corner.

Followed the link Tony worth the grin

I wonder why anyone would declare they're a policeman; only to be pilloried by all and sundry. Often for alleged offences committed by others - but by dint of your uniform, only to be found just as culpable?

Interestingly - 'a copper is generally, the last person you'd wish to share a beer with; but the first person you want to see, when you're in trouble'.

A colleague and good friend of mine, at the start of one of our day shifts, said before we go mobile, he's got some exhibits to pick up from Court, so he'll be out for about an hour of so, and he'd take the car. That's OK, time for another coffee and type up a few statements.

An hour went by; then two; until it was decided we should contact Comms. where a LOTBKF was B'cast, for our M/V. Shortly thereafter he was spotted sitting in the M/V, in this inner City Park. He'd placed his gun in his mouth and blown the back of his head off.

It emerged an allegation had been made against him, by this young, 20 year girl, accusing him of touching her up? Internal Investigations Detectives quickly proved she was lying, In fact she had antecedents for similar complaints. She was on day-leave from a Psychiatric Hospital and she was always alleging some sort of misconduct against Ambo's; Hospital staff; in fact anyone silly enough to tangle with this lady. He was married with two, near adult kids, and a practising Catholic. A bloke who was decorated while serving with the United Nations Civil Police Contingent, in Cyprus.

As I said, why would anyone wish to be a copper?

I'm not going to defend myself or my previous employer. I was immensely proud to have worn the blue uniform, made some lifetime mates - and yes, belief it or not, manifestly helped a number of people who, without my own personal intervention, would've come to grief quite badly. And in several instances; lost their lives. Should you not believe any of that PAUL1405, I couldn't care less..

What Paul and others seem to hate to the max is an authority fix. You see the getup clowns and antifa think it their right to plunder, pillage and belt into coppers. One day they will wake up to the simple fact that they are not God. Yep they might love their tantrums and bouts of rebellion however in the end their knee will bow (hopefully voluntary).

G'day RUNNER...

Mate, I've given up on PAUL1405. I should've taken notice of my very first instinct I had of him, over his reasons for escaping being 'called up' during the Vietnam War. He claimed he was a 'Conscience Objector', where many of them were found to be just 'dodging the draft', on the ground's of fear. Fear of the unknown; the basic training; or fighting a war. Others identified them as being cowards. Is PAUL1405 a legitimate Conscience Objector, or a coward? Only he knows that. Kinda fit's when you think about. Does everything possible to avoid Conscription. Therefore, he has little or no truck with the Army, perhaps a deep seated hatred. As he does for the police.

I know one thing, there's something amiss with this bloke, and you're of course right when you aver, he and others hate authority. I'd really like to know why?

Hi o sung wu,

"Should you not believe any of that PAUL1405" You give me no reason not to believe what you say. It makes no difference anyway.

I would not argue about the Vietnam War, if I was you, history has not been kind to those Australians who prosecuted and supported that particularly grubby war. In fact when Whitlam was elected the warmongers such as yourself, were well and truly in the minority. You must have hated a lot of your fellow Australians at that time.

Coppers and the Vietnam War; Large numbers of ordinary Australians protested Australia's involvement in that despicable war through Moratorium Marches held in all capital cities in 1970/71, numbers exceed 100,000. I am proud to say I took part in those protests as a young 19 year old. I personally witnessed pigs, members of the NSW Police Force who on command, remove their badges, and without incitement or the slightest provocation baton charged protesters, beating young girls and others around the head, arms, legs etc, dragging many who were little older than children by the hair to paddy wagons. Not surprisingly I witnessed these pigs being assisted to make arrest by well known thugs, members of the Australian Nazi Party, who would join in with relish as able helpers of the coppers. o sung wu where were you in those days, and where was your badge, in your pocket like those of other "good" coppers. Should you not believe any of that o sung wu, I couldn't care less.

http://www.abc.net.au/archives/80days/stories/2012/01/19/3411534.htm

And to think I called a rogue copper a dingo on this thread. tut tut my friend. In my opinion Dingo E, and his cohorts in crime, have been extended far more latitude in investigation than any ordinary citizen could reasonably expect under the circumstances, anonymity and closed hearings to give in camera evidence. Months of investigation and examination by very senior council, the average Joe arrested by the likes of Dingo E would receive swift justice given the evidence presented, at the hands of the magistrate, all of one day if so lucky.

PAUL1405...

As I said, only you know whether your dodged Conscription out of fear or rank cowardice. Some years ago on an ANZAC day I was speaking with a Naval Officer who was a Psychologist. We spoke about Conscription, as well as the public's perception of it. He reckoned many of those who cited being against the war, claiming they were Conscience Objector; as sufficient reason why they shouldn't be called up; were in many cases, just a ploy. Yes a ploy.

Not you PAUL1405, you cleverly managed to dodge conscription, you did advice us all last time, how you did it? Your were so 'proud' of your ability to beat the system. Yet there were many similar to you, who simply accepted their lot, and went on to become magnificent soldiers. The many Conscience Objectors that were conscripted, were interviewed. And after Basic Training, most were inducted into the Medical corps, or other areas that were essentially non-combatant by nature, where most served with considerable honour.

I remember my own repatriation, waiting for our Qantas Charter to jet us back home after our 12 months in country. There were a group of newbod's arriving at Vung Tau, deplaning through the rear door of their Hercules C-130. They were hit first, by this impenetrable wall of heat, and this stifling, acrid smell of aviation fuel, together with the screaming noise of US F105's taking off for another sortie, to who know's where? All these new blokes were wide eyed, looking about them utterly stunned, with expressions of a mix of fear and apprehension on their faces, just as we'd done 12 months earlier.

Not you PAUL1405, you'd never enjoy such camaraderie, enveloped as you were, in your nauseating efforts to elude & sidestep your own Conscription? I'd enjoy watching you try to justify to a group of Vets, just how you managed to avoid conscription? I reckon they'd run you out of town?

Hi o sung wu,

Changing the interpretation, now according to you there is only "fear or rank cowardice" for as you put it dodging conscription.
As your stupidly got my sexuality wrong you may have got this wrong as well.
Wise ass, I didn't dodge conscription, like thousands of others I did not register. The odds of being conscripted in the warmongers unlucky lottery was 1 in 7. If like me, you failed to register, the penalty was, wait for it, you were automatically conscripted! I was CONSCRIPTED, no unlucky lottery, no hiding out in grannies loo. Well blow me down, if I had been a little bit smarter, I should have registered, took my chances in the unlucky lottery, most likely not being called up at all, and in the unlikely event of my birth date being drawn, then and only then, dodge conscription by hiding out in grannies loo. What did the warmonger government actually do with the vast majority, more than 99%, who did not register. The answer is, wait for it, NOTHING, absolutely nothing. Why, because they knew if they tried to lock up thousands of young men they would have insurrection on their already bloodied hands.

"Some years ago on an ANZAC day I was speaking with a Naval Officer who was a Psychologist.' Were you both pissed at the time? Maybe you got this wrong as well, could he have been a psychopath, and not a psychologist. With all the screw balls in the military I could see a high demand for the services of a psychologist.

"taking off for another sortie, to who know's where?" Most likely to bomb and kill innocent Vietnamese children in their villages, they did a lot of that sort of thing. Nothing like getting together for a bit of camaraderie after a hard days killing is there

PAUL1405...

You're a very bitter, angry man aren't you! Whichever way you cut it mate, you dodged it! I reckon we all know the reason why; in your case cowardice - that's why you're so bitter and twisted calling Vets war mongers and baby killers, in an attempt to shield and assuage your own guilty conscience for wriggling out of conscription. I reckon most of us now understand what it was, PAUL1405 - you're a coward!

Being the pseudo noble, albeit cowardly soul you are - why not a non-combatants role? Or are they just as guilty as the rest of us war-mongers? You know something; my little mate, you and Sarah HANSON-YOUNG make a fine 'intellectual' pair - save for one important difference; she has the guts to sell her's and her Party's policies, which take courage. And courage is not part of your vocabulary is it?

No sir, your style is to snipe at others labelling everyone with abusive epithets? And that my friend, is the hallmark of a lousy coward. I just can't find the words of disgust, and utter revulsion I have for you, and your kind! A Mr Simon TOWNSEND quickly comes to mind. Every single one of us were scared shitless at the prospect of being killed, but we went, nevertheless.

I always wondered why you attacked police, with this spurious and phoney outrage at police brutality and other injustices. And sure, they deserve it in some cases I couldn't agree more! Language like 'Pigs' (your favourite), 'maggots', and 'dogs', these are the descriptor's employed by criminals to describe coppers? Perhaps PAUL1405, you're a criminal?

Nah, you wouldn't have the guts to be even a petty 'tea leaf'. No you're the type to hide among a thong of noisy demonstrators, yelling and abusing anything and everything - another mark of cowardice; enshrouding yourself among the noisy assemblage. Oh you reckon you're quite a guy, how in hell can you look at yourself in the mirror, and call yourself a man? You may be part of the wider male gender, however...tch tch tch ?

yep the Greens are those enjoying a good free life while crapping on those who gave it to them.

Hi o sung wu,

I will attempt to address your comments, as best I can.
"You're a very bitter, angry man (paul405) aren't you!" No I do not believe so, I have nothing to be angry or bitter about, such thing are in the past, and cannot be changed.

"I reckon we all know" I assume you use the we to gain comfort in the though that others would agree with you. Who are the "we".

"Perhaps PAUL1405, you're a criminal?" No, I could throw something equally derogatory back at you, but that would make me as childish as you are.

The two warmonger references were clearly directed at the government of the day, and not you. Comprehension problem old salt

The 'we' PAUL1405 might include the number of ex-serviceman herein, who would find your cowardice a real anathema and an abhorrence. Not because you opposed the Vietnam War, but the disgusting language you employ describing those who served there - warmonger etc. And these terms coming as they did from a - 'girl's blouse', a 'pussy'?

You wriggle and twist like a rat on a rope, trying to lie your way out of calling me a 'warmonger'. You know Paul you're a real 'thing', a cowardly low life with as much relevance as used gum stuck on one's sole! Let me remind you, you perverse, sleazy little prick; '...In fact when Whitlam was elected, the warmongers such as yourself were well and truely in the minority, you must have hated a lot of your fellow Australians at that time...'.

And there was this; '...the two warmonger references were clearly directed at the government of the day, and not you. Comprehension problem old salt..." 'Well ol' salt'; I again refer you to my second paragraph herein - so why not squint those beady little eyes of yours, furrow that brow, and remove your thumb, from you know where, and read the damn thing!

I really ache for a time PAUL1405, where you and I could meet somewhere, one out. I'd respectfully ask you to repeat every single, solitary syllable, you've ever uttered herein. Apropos the warmongers; the police force; and many other sundry organisations and topics that you've delighted in prejudicially, eviscerating and scarifing with impunity and anonymity. Somehow though, I reckon it'd be a real fizzer. A case of; 'No appearance your Worship!

seems to me, having taken the trouble to read every post Paul is being flogged with a feather, for nothing a million Australians do not say every day,not looking for a fight o sung wo, but seems you are, now Paul dislikes me,its political,once I handed out the greens HTV s at very much red neck booths, along with my own, these days, not so, yet spoke at length with their local candidate this morning, at a market day, he was abrupt, but we got on ok, each polling day I introduce myself to all booth captains and those manning, every sides booth, it is in my view a good and great thing, that we do not hate based on our politics, but is that the reason Paul is under attack? hard not to think so

Hi o sung wu,

In a previous post I did refer to you as a warmonger, I have no evidence that you were anything of the sorts. Possibly you found the Vietnam War as objectionable as I did, on moral and conscientious grounds, as did millions of your fellow Australians at that time. For that rash comment I withdraw the remark. At worse you may have been nothing more that a supporter of our participation there in. The true warmongers in Australia at that time, were the conservative governments of Menzies, Holt, Gorton and Mcmachen, I still hold that belief.
I have nothing but remorse for the over 500 young Australian lives that were needlessly and wrongfully extinguished because of our disgusting involvement in such a terrible war.

Your offensive and derogatory comments directed personally towards me are taken as nothing more than ho-hum, and on a political forum I expect that as part of the participation in a highly confrontational forum such as this.

HOWEVER, your attempt to "call me out"; // I really ache for a time PAUL1405, where you and I could meet somewhere, one out for a personal confrontation,// and no doubt the inference is for violence you would like to direct towards me. Such behavior is beyond the pale for a forum participant as far as I am concerned, but is a matter for the Forum Moderator. I don't know you at all, and do not know what you or your "mates" you speak of, you claim to be ex-military, ex-copper, are capable of.

Incidentally, I have been suspended from the forum on occasions, fairly, but in my many years of participation here I have never resorted to your particular brand of threat.

Paul,

That wasn't a threat, it was an invitation.

Hi issy,

Maybe this blokes "The Godfather", and makes offers you can't refuse.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SeldwfOwuL8

PAUL1405...

What are you whinging about now, so you've been suspended from the Forum - that's supposed to impress me? Do you wear your suspension like a 'badge of honour' or something - the irascible & tetchy PAUL1405, tough guy? Listen my craven little mate, if you reckon you've been threatened, your already have an inbuilt mechanism herein, in which you can lodge a complaint. Talk's cheap, do it!

Your first paragraph makes me heave and gag with undisguised contempt, over you pathetic 'climb down' from your warmongering commentary over Vietnam Vets. '...I have nothing but remorse for the over 500 young Australian lives that were needlessly and wrongfully extinguished because of our disgusting involvement in such a terrible war...'

Oh deary me, I hope you weren't too upset there PAUL1405, reading about all those terrible casualties, as you partook in your morning coffee and Corn Flakes, all the while your Australian countrymen, who didn't seek to dodge conscription, existed in the heat, the humidity, and yes the dust in the jungles of South Vietnam! Mate you make me want to retch with distain every time you open your mouth.

Where do you go on ANZAC Day? You curl up alone on your comfy lounge with your dog eared copy of 'Dan DARE' & his Combat Platoon', reading all about soldiering! I really wouldn't know, nor care? But what I do know, you'd never be found, or welcomed at any RSL on ANZAC Day. Unless of course you were there, under false pretences.

Hi o sung wu,

You are certainly an "ANGRY OLD MAN". I can understand your propensity towards violence in the first instance. It being possibly brought on by your gung-ho military involment in Vietnam, and then a long career as a "good" officer in the NSW Police Force, more violent behavior.

Like many of the poor unfortunates needlessly dragged into a disgusting war you are bitter because others such as me, were not as easily duped into military involvement. I understand many young men returned with physiological and physical disorders, drug addiction to hard drugs, and personality problems. Few escaped such trauma, I can see you have violent disorder syndrome, have you ever been treated for those kinds of problems.

PAUL1405...

An old man I am; angry not a bit! Why should I be? I've enjoyed a satisfying career, I'm in receipt of a comfortable pension due entirely to my police service. Together with a DVA Pension rated at 100%. This entitlement is due to injuries as a result of war service; it's indexed and non-taxable. FYI. I receive free; Medical, Dental, Optical, and the other ancillary health benefits people need from time to time like Podiatry; & Physiotherapy. I receive (free) mobility aids, a special walking frame, a excellent wheelchair, all through DVA. I get free Hire Car or Taxi service anytime I have to see a Doctor, or Physio or anything to do with my health.

Do I deserve it? No I don't believe I do. But as many others veterans say, including the Department of Veteran's Affairs and it's medical officers, it's an entitlement. Due to my 100% Disability pension.

I'm very very grateful even humbled for all the benefits I receive. Always mindful of the fact, that there are many others of my age, who can barely afford to turn their heater's on to stay warm in winter. Even have a script filled at the Pharmacy. Have to wait in agony until they have enough money to see the Dentist. And yes, I do feel very guilty for all the additional benefits I get when there're so many others, far more deserving then me, are denied those benefits. All because of my military service, and for no other logical reason!

It's for this reason I suppose - When God wants to punish a nation, he sends it's young men to fight in South Vietnam. PAUL1405; when you speak of the Vietnam War, you haven't the slightest idea about any of it - It's so easy to be brave from a distance!

Hi o sung wu,

I believe you are entitled to everything and anything you receive from the state. It is not a case of you receiving too much, more the case of others not being looked after antiquity, cast aside and forgotten. That is wrong and it has happened far too many times.

Finally PAUL1405; W've found some common ground that I can agree with! It's for this reason, when I was in uniform, and worked the truck, our duty was to slowly cruise through all the inner city parks at night. Rarely did we ever have a need to make arrests, in fact we were nick- named the 'Chat' Truck, meaning we spent more time looking after the interests of the old homeless blokes, who nightly occupied the park seats (benches) as their beds, provided it wasn't raining.

We weren't one out either. The Salvo's had a food van, Smith Family another van, and the Sydney City Mission yet another small vehicle, all of whom were in the business of helping Sydney's most neglected aged people - the homeless 'Chats'. The name 'Chat' originated in Long Bay Gaol, meaning these old guys; smelt because of poor hygiene, with filthy old clothes; and were generally 'untouchable' by all; other than the cops, the Charity's, and of course A & E at St Vincent's Hospital. Another feature of their harsh existence, they were generally quite aggressive, and argumentative, with a few of them wanting to take us on - naturally none were ever accommodated, more pitied than ever making us hostile towards them.

Many of these old guys wanted to be arrested, for no other reason, a warm cell and a decent feed. I've never had so much legitimate 'Job Satisfaction' than working the 'Chat' Truck. Not all cops are bad - many of my colleagues volunteered to work the Chat Truck giving away their own food to these poor buggers.

Paul1405,
when the career officers come to your school you could ask them what the job opportunities are in the NP&WS.
Don't follow your peers by stopping everything once you get your BA & join the labor party & become one of those overpaid loathed bureaucrats.
Leaving school now would offer you a more fulfilling life rather than just repeating what others have said before you. Go out & counsel those Dingoes, way more useful.