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Refugees and Migration 50 years in to the Future

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If you want to see what this migration & refugee policy will bring in 50 or 150 or 250 years, just look at Lebanon, or Croatia's recent past. Certain people, usually driven by religion just don't integrate, & will never live happily together. Bring them here or to Europe, & you are guaranteeing a new Lebanon here & in Europe.

As for aid, it has been shown for anyone who bothers to look through open eyes, that it is a total waste, or infact causes more trouble than it ever saves, even when some of it gets past the local government.

Feed a people in an already overpopulated failing country or area, & all you do is enable them to survive & breed. They continue increasing their population, thus requiring more aid.

Continue this & not only do you ensure more starvation in the places you help, when your capacity to do so diminishes & their population increases, but you will ultimately going to bring starvation to your own country, along with increasing refugee flows.

Yes the only solution bloody cruel to these people now, but is worse for more in their next generation if we continue giving aid to keep people breeding.

I am here reminded of the statement to my son, by an official in Indonesia after the tsunami, when his ship was there to help. "You go home, we don't want you". "Send money". We can all imagine where that money would go, just like the rest of our aid.

Posted by Hasbeen, Sunday, 15 July 2018 3:16:13 PM

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Posted by Hasbeen, Sunday, 15 July 2018 3:17:45 PM
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Foxy I am beginning to worry about you. Some of your posts don't make any sense, except as radical rants.

No one is in a concentration camp if they can at any time request & be granted all expenses paid transportation to their place of origan. Obviously criminals may not be interested in such transport, but all these country shoppers have an easy way out, paid for by us.
Posted by Hasbeen, Sunday, 15 July 2018 3:21:36 PM
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Dear Belly,

The government has confirmed that as part of their
Refugee and Humanitarian Program - as of March
2018-2019 the program will increase its intake
of people to 18,750. Which indicates that this
will probably continue to grow. Therefore long-
term global solutions such as aid, population
control, education are possibly things that need to
be looked at on the global level. If we want a
comfortable living in this country, we can't just
ignore the poor in other countries - or we'll be
in trouble.
Posted by Foxy, Sunday, 15 July 2018 3:28:40 PM
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Hasbeen,

'Rant' is good word to describe Foxy's extreme Left preaching.
Posted by ttbn, Sunday, 15 July 2018 4:00:28 PM
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Foxy Quote "If we want a comfortable living in this country, we can't just ignore the poor in other countries"

I suppose you could also say under your statement that could be translated to.
If we want the poor in other countries to have a more comfortable living, we must accept that there will be more poor in this country who will have an uncomfortable living.

OR

Lets give people in other countries a home at the expense of our own people being homeless.

There are lots of ways of putting it but they all mean the same, turn a blind eye to the suffering of your own people.
Posted by Philip S, Sunday, 15 July 2018 4:38:31 PM
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Well I had hoped reality not our private opinion would be seen, and will list what I see as realities in the coming period,no western government can continue to take mass migration/refugees and be elected, our detention centers do, mentally torture those in detention we do so purely to stop others coming and it is concentration camps we place them in,those telling them to hold out *the government/opposition will let you in* are too torturing detainees FOR POLITICAL GAIN, second and third generation migrants already in the west will assimilate, not all but most, those that do not harm their group, nothing like I would call for but my view a fact, we the west, will always need and take refugees and migrants, but transferring hunger/poverty and all the problems from the third world to the west is not an answer
Posted by Belly, Sunday, 15 July 2018 5:32:21 PM
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