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Refugees and Migration 50 years in to the Future

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Shadow Minister,

Thank You for pointing out the fact that when discussing
migrants, especially non-British migrants people are
sometimes tempted to lump all newcomers together and
treat them as one homogeneous species.

Nothing is further from the truth. Australian immigrants
vary a great deal in their ethnic backgrounds, religions,
and educational levels. Their current social and educational
needs are not homogeneous, either. People have settled in
Australia for various reasons: economic, change of lifestyle,
adventure, refugees, family reunions, and so on.

The early months after arrival in a new country calls for
the greatest adjustment, not only for the migrant, but also
for the local people who interact with the migrant. Since
Culotta's humorous exposure of the problem, the literature
on this topic has been growing rapidly as we know.
Posted by Foxy, Thursday, 19 July 2018 8:44:21 PM
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Hey Foxy,
"The early months after arrival in a new country calls for the greatest adjustment, not only for the migrant, but also for the local people who interact with the migrant."

Gotcha, there's no way out of it this time.

That's your statement right?
That's the domonstration of your logic, now I'm going to PROVE your thinking is wrong.

You stated / acknowledged that local people who interact with the migrant also have to adjust.

And so it stands to reason that the multicultural utopia you envision can only occur IF the native citizens are willing to also adjust.

But how far must we go to adjust?

Your illogical and irrational thinking doesn't account for moving the goalposts.

I've tried to show you that Tommy Robinson video 4 times now but you ignore it and I think this is wilful ignorance.
If you did watch it you might hear the story of the UK police officer whose head was split open by a Muslim.

The man was arrested and when local Muslims all started to protest at the station and demand his release, the police caved and released him without charge, because they did not want nationwide uprising of Muslims.

And it's in this same spirit the Police and government are attacking Tommy Robinson, for simply exposing the Muslim rape gangs who specifically target non-muslim girls and sell them for sex.

This is what your supporting and what will come here, because of your support.

- There is no end to the 'adjustments' native citizens will have to make for your imagined utopia; that will never work anyway.

You think the goal is multicultural utopia.
It's not, It's One World Government.

I've given you all enough links on this forum to figure it out for yourselves you schmucks.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Friday, 20 July 2018 7:49:34 AM
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You say you care about democracy, but your choice changes our society (by changing the people) then your choice changes the government to socialist, (because we have changed demographics) Then the socialist government with feelgood liberal social agendas for 'useful idiots' run it into debt and sell it out to globalists;

Your imagined utopia is only possible if we adjust, and when it doesn't happen because you cannot force us to adjust you'll go down blaming us in support of foreigners.

Just like Theresa May.

Your choice is the death knell for democracy, because your too dumb to understand this is the globalists design.

It's no accident the same agendas are pushed in western countries.

We don't have democracy, we don't choose our future, we are steered in the direction they want us to go, decieved; managed.

People might've been able to call a conspiracy theorist such 20 or 30 years ago but not anymore.

You'd have to be an idiot not to see what's happening around us.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Friday, 20 July 2018 7:54:29 AM
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Well we sure let our biases out in this thread, did not see a lot of attempts at psychic abilities on display or even best thoughts about that future, so here are my thoughts, we will still have migration, we will still have refugees,the economic ones may find it much harder to gain entry in any countrys, the poor of other countries will still power some western country in food harvesting and such, war terrorist acts will contribute to change in the Islamic world, just maybe dictators will not be removed so readly, and less hate based on blind racism, from both sides will be in place Turkeys refusal to send that terrorist home to face trial confirms some countries will still be a problem
Posted by Belly, Friday, 20 July 2018 8:04:41 AM
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Good job Armchair Critic.
Posted by Canem Malum, Friday, 20 July 2018 10:43:57 AM
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Dear Belly,

At present, Australia is one of the most ethnically
diverse societies in the world. Well over twenty per cent
of all Australians were born in another country, more
than half of these have come to Australia from non-English-
speaking countries in Europe, the Middle East, South
America and Asia. More than 42 per cent were born outside
Australia or had a parent born outside Australia. Many of
these people speak a language other than English at home.

However, the concept of multiculturalism continues to have
different meanings for different people. Hidden anti-migrant
prejudices may not be voiced in public until they are
highlighted by some well-publicized event such as Pauline
Hanson's speech and behaviour in our Parliament. Some
Australians still believe that a "unique Australian society
and identity emerged with Federation and ... this identity
should be the basis of immigrant assimilation."

We must deal with all these problems to move forward as a free,
fair, and vibrant society. I have no doubt whatsoever that
we can find solutions that suit us, provided we do not succumb
to the siren calls of demagogues, charlatans and ideologues.

Peter Costello wrote in his Memoirs,

"Politics, for all its rough edges, is a civilised and
civilising calling. Despite all the obloquy shovelled on the head
of politicians, they are men and women who work the machinery of
of our liberal democratic way of life. They reflect public
opinion - and at their best lead public opinion - and transmute
it into laws that shape our society and our country." And they
will continue to do precisely that.

They will continue to discuss the unresolved problems that face us
like addressing Indigenous disadvantage, refugees, and migration.
These problems as I've stated earlier - we must deal with to
move forward as a free, fair and vibrant society. And as stated
earlier I have no doubt we can find the solutions that suit us -
provided we do not succumb to the siren calls of demagogues,
charlatans and ideologues.

See you on another discussion.

Cheers.
Posted by Foxy, Friday, 20 July 2018 11:24:38 AM
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