If there were no guns, people would still be killing each other just as they were before gunpowder was discovered, but in much more horrible and clumsy ways.

Trying to make one evil the lesser of two evils, and therefore mitigating the first evil is ridiculous. Thank god for guns, If it was not for guns people would be butchered by swards, and since no one wants be hacked to death by a sward therefore they would much prefer to be shot dead by a gun. As I said ridiculous!

Please indicate here all of those who want to be shot dead by a gun. The perverted who want to be hacked to death by a sward can also put their hands up. For me I'll choose neither.

Hard issue, we have seen each side deeply entrenched in its own point of view in such threads so many times, but John Howard, good Prime Minister I never stopped trying to remove, did it himself with work choices, got it spot on, well done and thanks! union boss once said you had been one of the out standing people he ever knew to have a beer with, he however died before work choices

Every US state has gun control regulations, they just vary from state to state. Gun control does not mean that people cannot own guns.

Even if every single person who was massacred at Las Vegas had a gun, they would still be dead. That's why so many US citizens want a ban on military style weapons like the AR15. If I remember correctly both Knight and Bryant used military style weapons. That was over 20 years ago and I may be mistaken but we have not had a similar style random mass shooting since. Nor has there been a rise in sword massacres to offset the reduction in gun massacres. That suggests the new laws worked.

Comparing gun statistics in other countries is relevant. Simple logic, you reduce the number of guns, you reduce the number available to “crazies”, you reduce the number of people they kill. The changes in our laws back that up. Or spin the logic, in simple English it shows that when you have more guns you have more “crazies”, so you need more guns to protect yourself, which then means there's more guns for the “crazies” to get hold of and on and on and on.

Both the US and Australia have car control. People get tested before getting a licence. People register and insure cars. People inform the relevant agencies when cars are sold or stolen. One reason for keeping a car registry is to reduce the likelihood of buying a stolen vehicle. I think these car controls have more positives than negatives. Similar regulations on guns across all states would satisfy the overwhelming majority of Americans seeking tighter gun controls.

Nor has there been a rise in sword massacres
unravel,
Knifings have become so everyday that they hardly get reported anymore. I suppose they're not as sexy as machine guns to report.

mitigating the first evil is ridiculous
Paul1405,
You wouldn't think so if you were to ermerge from your urban cocoon & watched some poor creature slowly succumb to painful stab wounds & another die instantly from a couple of shots.
Making statements based on no experience is even more ridiculous.