Is there life after death?

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Posted by Opinionated2, Tuesday, 8 May 2018 7:30:26 PM

Whilst exposing the tricks and dishonest approach to everyone that many believers use it would be remiss of me not to point out their attempts at deception.

Back in the day of Paul the dishonest Pharisee that the religions have followed whilst usurping Jesus, believers allowed Mary Magdelene to be treated as a prostitute.

Once again this lie was perpetrated by the Pharisaical religions to keep women oppressed and it worked.

Eventually in 1969 even the male dominated Catholic Church was dragged kicking and screaming to accept that Mary Magdelene was not a prostitute and that she had been much maligned by all the Christian religion.

Even on this thread one of our beloved know-nothing Bible falsifiers tried the same thing on regarding this verse...

http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?discussion=8181#255060

I dealt with it here...

http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?discussion=8181#255068

Josephus changed the original Greek word for WOMEN and inserted TEMPLE PROSTITUTES in it's place to justify his sad position.

Revelation 14:4 These are they which were not DEFILED WITH WOMEN; for they are virgins. These are they which follow the Lamb whithersoever he goeth. These were redeemed from among men, being the firstfruits unto God and to the Lamb.

When you go back to the original Greek which I can't put here as this site won't allow me in Revelations 14:4 the word is WOMEN....NOT TEMPLE PROSTITUTE!

This is how these people deceive everyone...They change words and interpretations to suit their flawed positions. This is how Mary Magdelene was defamed since Paul because of faulty study.

NEVER TRUST THEM! Their opinions are worthless!

My question is always...I understand how men believe this Bible rubbish oppressing women but how do women believe it?

Look here more on Oppression of women...see here

http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?discussion=8181#254911

and

http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?discussion=8181#254940

and

http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?discussion=8181#254941

and

http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?discussion=8181#254942

Sorry ladies but the religions have hoodwinked you terribly!

Posted by Opinionated2, Wednesday, 9 May 2018 1:57:02 AM

Not_Now.Soon,

We’ve been discussing the reliability of prayer as evidence for God for a long time now, and there seems to be something you’re still not understanding. So, let me try to nip this in the bud once and for all by putting it as succinctly as I possibly can.

You seem to be under the impression that the more answered prayers I write off as mere co-incidence, the less credible an answer co-incidence becomes.

Even if you’re remembering all your answered prayers accurately (and there is good reason to believe that you’re not), we still don’t know what percentage of your prayers are supposedly being answered. The percentage of prayers answered could be as low as 5%, but, due to confirmation bias, you may be remembering the percentage to be as high as 50%. Therefore, even if you get me to write off 1000 answered prayers as mere co-incidence, this still means nothing until we know what percentage 1000 prayers is of the total prayers prayed. One thousand is nothing if that only makes up 5% of the total.

That being said, even if this hypothetical 1000 prayers comprised 100% of your total prayers prayed, we would still not be justified in concluding that a god is behind them because we have no objective evidence that anything supernatural exists, let alone a god. The best we have is an interesting unknown. Moreover, if we WERE to entertain the supernatural, how do we know that you don't have the ability to will events into reality? That seems just as likely as a god.

As an aside, have you ever wondered why God only answers prayers in ways that have other, more rational explanations? For example, when was the last time He healed an amputee? I suppose it's entirely possible that no one's ever prayed for that, and utterly unremarkable as to why.

Posted by AJ Philips, Wednesday, 9 May 2018 1:37:52 PM

AJ Prayer does work for some people. But it is not God but their own subconscious. Sharing a worry with someone helps relieve stress. I talk to my mother and father and sons by their graves, and I get empowered. Sort of ' A worry shared is a worry halved'. I keep asking to win the lottery, but it hasn't happened yet, lol.

I think I wrote about this. Prayer is a sort of mental therapy, and whether shared helps I don't know.

Why do you Christian our innocent babies? To clear them of 'original sin'. Original sin - sex. Well I can only speak of UK but history notes that once it was a terribly naughty place with the fairs being pick up points, over drinking. Even the Lord of the Manor joined in. That's until Cromwell came along, ruled like a dictator. Tried to ban Christmas. Well the traditional Christmas that is more pagan than the Nativity. Banned theater, all the good things that the general populace enjoyed. He was a wet blanket. I believe in moral responsibility, but Christmas? What's wrong with a minced pie or plum pudding laced with brandy, etc. Anyway, there is nothing magical about prayer. But it helps people in times of stress, bit like self hypnosis

Posted by Bush bunny, Wednesday, 9 May 2018 2:17:09 PM

Bush bunny,

Yes, I once made the point to Not_Now.Soon that the calming effect that prayer can have may sometimes give the appearance of divine intervention.

For example, stopping to pray to ask that God help one find one’s car keys could indeed help to the extent that it provides one with a moment’s pause to calm down and remember where they are.

Another example is a person trapped in a mineshaft: if prayer can help such a person to slow their breathing and conserve oxygen, then the prayer may very well save that person’s life.

That being said, I think a bit of mindfulness and meditation can have just as good a result as prayer, if not better, only without the risk of negatively impacting other areas of life.

Posted by AJ Philips, Wednesday, 9 May 2018 2:56:57 PM

Yes AJ spot on. I think I mentioned too, during WW11, a coven of Wiccans conjured up a Cone of Power to ward off the German's Invading Britain. Well they believed the combined power of thirteen people (12 Apostles and 1 Messiah?) stopped the Nazis in their tracks. Well I believe the RAF had something to do with it too. White witches of course, not Satanists or Scientologists.

Posted by Bush bunny, Wednesday, 9 May 2018 3:03:50 PM

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