Josephus and NNS. Please open your minds and arguing with no understanding of how I and others see your mindset. Now what I have read, the processes of Genesis are almost right. In itself thinking that these people had no scientific knowledge, is quite amazing. The big problem is the time and space parameters. Twenty four hours, one day, but we can argue that we don't know how long God's day was? But history, geology, palaeoanthropology, fossils do suggest, that evolution of living organisms took longer than 24 hours to evolve.

How can I explain this, all living organism responds firstly to their natural environment. 'Humans propose but nature deposes'. If you take a fish out of water, it will die. If living organisms don't reproduce and their offspring reproduce, they will become extinct. The conditions, climate, atmosphere and natural landscapes, seas etc., have changed continually. 250 million years ago, the planet was an ice ball, very little living organisms survived. Seventy million years ago a comet or asteroid hit the Gulf of Mexico and over the years killed off the dinosaurs. They ran out of food.

If you examine the DNA of humans we have extra chromosomes that don't seem to have any function or purpose. If suddenly, all domestic stock died, and only chickens and fish left, we would live or adapt. But if the bees all died, no fertile plants, we would all die eventually, unless we hand fertilized them. We are at the mercy of our natural environment, and humans have evolved more than others, like the mega fauna, to not specialize, be versatile, live in most environments, bar the ocean, although we exploit it.

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Strangely animals on the African continent have not changed a lot since the prehistoric period. Most humans could not live in Arctic regions, (they can now of course) because Inuits had evolved a different metabolism to the rest of human kind. We convert energy or blood glucose from carbohydrates but Inuits lived on blubber, whale and seal meat, and the only carbohydrates they consumed was a about 1 kg of berries a year, and a soup made from the stomach contents of seals. (Yuck)

But they evolved to their natural environment, cold and frozen surroundings. No cereals fruit, breads, beef, etc. Or alcohol. Their health has deteriorated since we introduced alcohol and a western diet, but they will adapt.

Until about 3,000 years ago, all the religious beliefs revolved around the natural environment, Gods and Goddesses, the Sun, all played a part in human beliefs. Why not, they couldn't really understand natural disasters, drought or plagues. And that some divine power controlled their lives, that divine power was mother nature. And they have been subjects of hers since time began. Adapt or die. The only thing that can intervene is humans themselves. They kill one another, on a mass scale. No wonder most religions preach that they love your neighbor, and adhere to the 10 commandments.

Religion is a survival mechanism, imprinted in our souls or human spirit. That we pray for deliverance from evil, because most individuals have little power over the fates, all there are are rules or natural laws that can assist help us survive and breed our children. Without children, our gene pool will become extinct, and to kill someone else's child is one of the worst universal sins you can deliver. Here endith the lesson.

The Book of Genesis is unreliable when it comes to any matter.

Firstly...you believe Moses, a mass murdering Psychopath...wrote it....Would you go to a modern day mass murdering psychopath for your information regarding God and life? Apparently so...lmao

LOOK EVIDENCE!

Genesis 1:25-26 And God made the beast of the earth after his kind, and cattle after their kind, and every thing that creepeth upon the earth after his kind: and God saw that it was good.

And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.

Now repeat after me....GOD made all THE ANIMALS FIRST and THEN MADE MAN!

But wait no he didn't....

Genesis 2:7 And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.

then

Genesis 2:18 -19 And the LORD God said, It is not good that the man should be alone; I will make him an help meet for him.

And out of the ground the LORD God formed every beast of the field, and every fowl of the air; and brought them unto Adam to see what he would call them: and whatsoever Adam called every living creature, that was the name thereof.

Now repeat after me....GOD MADE MAN FIRST and THEN ALL THE ANIMALS!

OK now I realise believers aren't good at comprehension so let me put the two outcomes from the verses together for you so you can compare them...

Genesis 1...GOD made all THE ANIMALS FIRST and THEN MADE MAN!
Genesis 2....GOD made MAN FIRST and THEN made all THE ANIMALS

You believers believe Moses wrote Genesis so Moses got it wrong!

So believers, using the Bible as evidence regarding creation or DNA is simply misguided, and that is why science exists and intelligent people don't go to Psychopaths for our mis-information...It is that simple!

NNS If I am undermining you religious beliefs, is not the case? This is a case of an alternative belief. In Life and the wonder of evolution, the cosmos, and our relationship with this.

Yes we are the most adaptive and creative living organism that now tries to control our natural and cultural environment.

Stephen Hawkings is alleged to have said, that humans must leave Earth in the next hundred years. I am sure he didn't me Mass evacuation, as there is no where for us to live. What we see in the night sky took 500000000 million years to reach us. We don't know what's there still in our time anyway. But we came most probably from the stars, or as Carl Sagan said, 'We are made of star stuff' (All the elements and atoms exist outside in the Cosmos). But for some reason, abstract thought and thinking has allowed us, unlike animals, because we live longer than most, to think beyond our natural world, and make some sense out of why we are here.

Opine 2, Even the Jews don't believe Moses wrote the five books of the Old Testament. Moses is a definitive of Thutmoses, an Egyptian name. If he was brought up by Egyptians he would have only spoken and written Egyptian. He may if he existed orally told this to others. The Jewish religion really only started to form after they came out of Babylon, about BC 600 and they built the second temple.

There is archaeological evidence that Israelites may have been in North Egypt, where Ramses the Great had them build some temple and huge sculptures called the town Ramses. That was around the time of Exodus, 14th Century BC. Say 700 years before their Judaism was evolving. Anyway, they murdered their way across Canaan, and eventually settled in Jerusalem. This Old Testament is no book to be proud of. Murder and Mayhem is all around. If anything the Bible rather than be called Holy, is a somewhat exaggerated history as ancient Jewish scribes or Rabbis believed it.

Anyway got to go. Opine 2, most Christian religions concentrate on Jesus Christ and his three year campaign of reviving the old Jewish values. There were many so called Messiahs, but they unlike Jesus, were agitating the Jews to rebel against the Romans. Not a good idea folks, as you learned in 70 AD.

Dear Bunny,

«Religion is tribal, and what ever you believe, you are cast in a tribal image.»

It is very unfortunate that religion is covered in tribalism, so covered that often we are no longer able to see religion itself. Yet tribalism is like the "beard" of algae stuck to a ship's hull: not religion itself.

«This is a case of an alternative belief. In Life and the wonder of evolution, the cosmos, and our relationship with this.»

Yes, you listed four beliefs here, just as irrational as others.

«Yes we are the most adaptive and creative living organism»

And this is the fifth, that you are an organism.

«Stephen Hawkings is alleged to have said, that humans must leave Earth in the next hundred years. I am sure he didn't me Mass evacuation»

Why must we? Because Stephen Hawkings said so?

«abstract thought and thinking has allowed us, unlike animals, because we live longer than most, to think beyond our natural world, and make some sense out of why we are here.»

Nothing in these ideas of leaving the planet is beyond the natural world and nothing here makes any sense in trying to explain why we are here. Rather, we see this extended ability for abstract thought, operating in the service of fear and biological survival instincts.