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Posted by Opinionated2, Wednesday, 18 April 2018 10:22:08 AM
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Dear Josephus,
Even the most devout Christian should have no trouble with Opinionated2's description of that monster, David (other than with Opinionated2's aggressive and harsh style). After all, the only binding connection between Jesus and the old testament is through Matthew 5:17-18 - "Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil. For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled." Surely the legend of this evil king, David, is neither law nor prophecy! Posted by Yuyutsu, Wednesday, 18 April 2018 1:57:57 PM
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You are all talking about the old Testament (Hebrew Bible) It is a terrible tale/s. I watched a DVD called 'The Bible' and about Abraham, Noah, and Lot. Gee they white washed the real story as told probably 600 BC when the Israelites came out of Babylon and built the second temple.
But they did not white wash David's adultery and loss of illegitimate child. There is nothing wrong with the 10 commandments. But the orthodox Jews have 600 commandments. Imagine what it was like 2000 years ago. Slaughter, mayhem, the Romans and Jews. Come on the oppressed always turn to someone who can give them hope. Jesus targeted the ones whom needed empowerment. They saw him as the Messiah. But - he was not born in Bethlehem, the part of Nazareth was not under Roman Rule. Virgin birth? Resurrection. Another King David, no he was the opposite. He was a Jew and died a Jew not a Christian that was St.Paul's invention. Remember he was a Roman citizen and Jew, sent out to hunt down Jesus's followers. So long as some religions don't put their own interpretation on the Holy Bible's meaning and literal truth as it pertains in the 21st century, that is absolutely hard to take. So if anyone can not break any of the 10 commandments, they may live a fairly easy and peaceful life. But remember our social/economic/political cultures have evolved and that is why you are getting these new religions popping up, that exploit peoples paranoia and greed. What about the Jedi, Scientology, the New Church, building a multi million Ark and theme park proving the six day creation, and we humans came fully formed and walked with dinosaurs. That was an Australian who master minded those, Ham his name was. But the danger is today, the number of people following these faux religious cults. In that light, old fashion Christians are no danger to other than themselves. And I hope there is a life after death. Posted by Bush bunny, Wednesday, 18 April 2018 2:36:04 PM
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There are 613 mitzvot...(commandments)in Judaism and these were some of what Jesus was referring to in
Matthew 5:17-18..."Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil. For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled." Jesus gave three commandments although the first is re-stating Commandment 1 of the 10 commandments. Mark 12:30-31 "And thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind, and with all thy strength: this is the first commandment. And the second like it, is this, Thou shalt love thy neighbor as thyself. There is none other commandment greater than these." John 13:34 "A new commandment I give to you, that you love one another, just as I have loved you, you also are to love one another" Of course Jesus also said... Matthew 5:28 But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart. So I guess that would be an addition to the law... But some of the Mitzvot laws are a little weird. 3 Not to blaspheme (Exodus 22:27; in Christian texts, Exodus 22:28), the penalty for which is death Leviticus 24:16 Funny that believers who believe the Bible don't notice the blasphemies against God in it by the Psychopathic nutjob writers...they lie to your faces....Brain dead much? 1Kings 11:5-6 For it came to pass, when Solomon was old, that his wives turned away his heart after other gods: AND HIS HEART WAS NOT PERFECT WITH THE LORD HIS GOD, AS WAS THE HEART OF HIS FATHER. So according to your nutjob Bible Holocausts, adultery, the slaughter of innocent women and children and murder made David perfect with God! You lot really have such pathetic comprehension skills and I have to always show you what you miss...lmao Back to Bible kindergarten for the lot of you...lmao Posted by Opinionated2, Wednesday, 18 April 2018 3:56:21 PM
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Why does the Bible and other religious writings always point to the fact that believers aren't the sharpest tools in the shed? You guys prove it time and again...lmao
Some of the Mitzvot laws... 278...Not to slay an innocent person (Exodus...20:13)...Really? You needed to be told that?...lmao 279...Not to kidnap any person of Israel (Exodus... 20:13)...Feel free to kidnap non-Israelites though...lmao 280...Not to rob by violence (Leviticus....19:13)...Feel free to non-violently rob though...lmao See Paul followed that... 2 Corinthians 11:8...I ROBBED other churches by taking pay from them to minister to you. Paul got his hand caught in the collection plate and apparently that is fine under law...lmao OMG! Have you ever been into a Catholic Church or seen the priests in Rome? 313...Not to make any figures for ornament, even if they are not worshipped (Exodus 20:20) Or the happy ways of killing people... 285...288 That the Court shall pass sentence of death by decapitation with the sword (Exodus...21:20; Leviticus...26:25) That the Court shall pass sentence of death by strangulation (Leviticus....20:10) That the Court shall pass sentence of death by burning with fire (Leviticus...20:14) That the Court shall pass sentence of death by stoning (Deuteronomy...22:24) I thought Jesus taught "Let he who has not sinned cast the first stone"...would that be a jot or a tittle that he just changed?...lmao Matthew 1:1 The record of the genealogy of Jesus the Messiah, the son of David, the son of Abraham: So Jesus is a Son of David...Oh what a proud heritage...the son of a psychopathic, adulterous, war criminal who was famous for Holocausts, adultery, the slaughter of innocent women and children and murder made David perfect with God! Mark 12:35 And Jesus began to say, as He taught in the temple, "How is it that the scribes say that the Christ is the son of David? Oh, Oh. Jesus seems proud of his horrid heritage...lmao You have heard it said that Thou shalt not commit murder?...Holocausts are just fine and dandy though! WAKE UP! Posted by Opinionated2, Wednesday, 18 April 2018 9:18:59 PM
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My apologies, Not_Now.Soon. I had read this incorrectly:
<<But you know what forget all of that.>> I had read it as, “But now you forget all that.” It would be clearer at a glance had you included punctuation: “But, you know what? Forget all of that.” Punctuation: it saves lives. http://imgur.com/a/ekjb2 So, there, now we can both feel like geese, and you no longer have to feel so silly for thinking that my question had anything to do at all with how you actually treat your wife. Do you get why a loaded question is fallacious now, though? Your question: “Am I missing how you're moving these goal posts?” (http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?discussion=8181#255733) assumes that I was ever moving them in the first place. It assumes that I’m already guilty. Therefore, even if I had answered ‘no’, the implication in my answer would have been that I was indeed still moving goalposts in some way or another. It is a dishonest and fallacious way to frame a question, and I suggest you avoid it in future. A failure to do so may see you faced with many more people asking you if you beat your wife. Only next time, you’ll know what it is they’re trying to tell you. Posted by AJ Philips, Thursday, 19 April 2018 6:28:03 AM
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Jesus made the adultery rule tougher!
Matthew 5:28 But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart.
Seems Jesus/GOD had one rule for Solomon and another rule for us, if you believe this stuff!
1Kings 11:5-6 For it came to pass, when Solomon was old, that his wives turned away his heart after other gods: and his heart was not perfect with the LORD his God, as was the heart of David his father.
For Solomon went after Ashtoreth the goddess of the Zidonians, and after Milcom the abomination of the Ammonites.
And Solomon did evil in the sight of the LORD, and went not fully after the LORD, as did David his father.
Oh yes and typical of the Bible it was the women's fault...GOD must hate women if you believe this rubbish!
1Kings 11:10-11 And had commanded him concerning this thing, that he should not go after other gods: but he kept not that which the LORD commanded.
Wherefore the LORD said unto Solomon, Forasmuch as this is done of thee, and thou hast not kept my covenant and my statutes, which I have commanded thee, I will surely rend the kingdom from thee, and will give it to thy servant
Did GOD give it to his servant?...Nope
1Kings 11:43 And Solomon slept with his fathers, and was buried in the city of David his father: and Rehoboam his son reigned in his stead.
Even though allegedly 10 of the 12 tribes of Israel refused to accept Rehoboam as King... GOD didn't give it to Solomon's servant as he threatened in 1Kings 11-11.
So does GOD make idol threats also?
People believe this stuff...lmao
I'm positive that Solomon was a creep and like David lied to justify his immoral womanising ways!...lmao
Let's be moral & positive like NNS and Josephus and keep the facts from the people and continue lying to children...It's apparently what they believe God would want...lmao
See how indoctrination twists your morality...Everyone else can!