My experiences are amazing but not proof of anything - I'm glad I had them and the Atheist man apparently lived on in the next life...

NNS...How can the facts of what the Bible actually states absolutely clearly be the position of an Atheist. If that isn't proof that you simply aren't correct nothing is.

I quote exact Chapter and verse and show the actual verses and you still can't comprehend the facts...You are blinded by religion even in plain site!

I never said I believe in God...I said I wasn't an Atheist!

Belief is a term for the undereducated and the flawed thinker amongst us.

I want evidence!

Thomas is my hero...

Jesus said Matthew 24:5 For many shall come in my name, saying, I AM CHRIST; and shall deceive many.

Even though Jesus was supposedly standing in front of him he followed Jesus' precise instruction in Matthew 24:5 and wanted more evidence.

Of course then Jesus stuffs the story by saying

John 20:29 Then Jesus told him, “Because you have seen me, you have believed; blessed are those who have not seen and yet have believed."

And the trap is set and you all fall for it.

Jesus failed every believer by opening the door for belief without knowing, belief through trickery, belief through selective bible verse choice, belief driven by liars, belief in fairytales, belief by money grabbing religions and belief in the absurd... and the feeble of mind followers flocked to the religions and the absurd...lmao

I mean you guys still believe in a talking snake...lmao

You believe that God created the Universe in 3 days but can't stop the devil in all of time...lmao

Now I want you to listen carefully and remember you heard it here first...Jesus isn't coming! Remember it on your death bed that OP2 was correct and you were wrong!

Every generation from when Jesus was allegedly killed by believers have been wrong.

Jesus said Matthew 24:34 Verily I say unto you, THIS GENERATION SHALL NOT PASS, till all these things be fulfilled.

Well I'm sorry but that generation has passed!

To Opinionated2.

[My experiences are amazing but not proof of anything - I'm glad I had them and the Atheist man apparently lived on in the next life...]

Amazing might be a bit of a head trip there. How about unique. Either way you say they are not proof of anything. How are they not proof? A man says that there is no afterlife, that such concepts are the things of weak minds or of those in a religion. You're experiences prove these aren't just concepts, but there is more to us even after we die. ... However whether your friend the atheist was still an atheist when he died is not known unless you read that in his obituary. 20 years is a long time for either of the two to either gain faith or lose it. ... Either way what they do or where they go is not the point. It's that they still can do anything or go anywhere as opposed to ceasing to exist.

Don't take that lightly. Either the experience had merit and the friends who died and the physic's experience were real. Or you have experienced a moment of craziness and they never actually happened. There is no in between. If it is real that means people don't die when their body does. That's proof enough, unless you mean to say none of it was actually real?

(Continued)

[NNS...How can the facts of what the Bible actually states absolutely clearly be the position of an Atheist. If that isn't proof that you simply aren't correct nothing is.]

You aren't correct though. But from the last conversation about the bible I had with you you would rather talk nonstop then to stop and listen to what could be said about any of it. Should I apologize that I don't want this conversation to be swallowed up in the same fashion? There is philosophy, theology, theory, and guesses, and then there is experience that trumps all of that. Why get lost in trying to convince each other our theory of life and theory of the world is right when instead we have a good seat to set straight some misunderstandings through the experiences people have had? A sure misunderstanding that there is nothing that exists of us after we die. Or again I suppose you could say you have no proof and your experiences are episodes of being crazy. Though I hope that is not what you would say.

[I never said I believe in God...I said I wasn't an Atheist!]

Not quite. You said that what was about God was a lie about God. And you avoided explaining yourself when questioned about it. But still you claimed to not be an atheist. Now saying you never said you believed in God shows a truer color. One that fits better your arguments then "the bible lies about God."

Either way let it go. Your now showing some truer colors. But that is still less important to this conversation, then answers to Nathan's question if there is life after death.

So let's analyse this a bit further...If the Jesus story is true, why would he bother coming back to you lot?

Believers wrongly believe that his father God condoned of and sometimes committed infanticide, rape, murder, animal and human sacrifice, ethnic cleansing, war crimes, torture, incest, Mosaic Law - (Sharia Law), stoning, slavery , oppression of women and other atrocities.

Believers have promoted Jesus to God, and disguarded the real God in doing so, through the false Trinity doctrine, defying Jesus as usual!

Mark 10:18 And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good? THERE IS NONE GOOD BUT ONE, THAT IS GOD.

Believers and religions have divided Jesus religion into 44,000 sects and denominations when he left one.

Believers and religions have made billions of dollars at the expense of the poor, the sick, the starving and the ill....

Oh yes some have created hospitals, schools etc. but they are just indoctrination centres and profit centres used against children and the needy religions benefit....all against Jesus' teachings!

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-02-12/catholic-church-worth-$30-billion-investigation-finds/9422246

Now let's see if you can put yourself in Jesus' position regarding humans...Would you return? The answer has to be NO!

Now most of the soon rubbish comes fro Revelations - The ravings of methane affected John of Patmos from his volcanic island and you guys believe it...lol

Hey man Jesus said Revelation 3:11 I am coming SOON Hold fast what you have, so that no one may seize your crown.

This methane I'm breathing never lies...lmao What crown?...lmao

Matthew 16:28 Verily I say unto you, THERE BE SOME STANDING HERE, WHICH SHALL NOT TASTE DEATH, till they SEE the Son of man coming in his kingdom.

Everyone standing there is dead!

Jesus isn't coming back to you rabble...He has seen you all lie and misappropriate and divide his religion for money and personal gain!

You are all a part of the beast system and you are too simple to see it!

I've recently re-read what Rabbi Marianne Williamson
had to say on the subject of intolerance - which I
think may be of interest to some people because it
is relevant to how we behave in this life - it may have
an affect on us in the next (or not). Anyway here goes:

The only thing we can be one hundred percent responsible
for is our own minds. Today, there is a widespread,
malignant thought form that "other people are the problem."
Conservatives tend to blame Progressives for our problems.
While Progressives blame Conservatives. The media blames
almost everyone, and almost everyone blames immigrants.

Some people are convinced homosexuals are the problem, while
others think that single mothers are the problem. Still
others think the Christian Right is the problem. The entire
culture has become a hysterical blame session.

Yet a healthy, vital society is not one in which we all
agree.

Our conversation must shift away from the mass infantile
finger-pointing that now pervades it. We must get away from
the tendency to think that our way is the right way and that
people who disagree with us are bad.

Within each of us lies the disease, and within each of us
lies the divine physician. It is therefore important that
we renew dignified and respectful dialogue with those
who do not agree with us than that we keep slavishly
congratulating those who have the wisdom to see things
our way.

Is there life after death? Many believe that there is.
But that's allright. It's also allright not to believe
that there is. However, we must not stoop to disrespect
opinions or beliefs - because many of the things that
most of us were brought up to think "could never happen
here," have already begun to happen: dangerous
scapegoating, violent hate crimes, small-minded
intolerance for the views of others. And at what point do
we wake up enough to know that without treatment this
"illness" will destroy us?

NNS...So you want me, without evidence from everyone in the world to claim my experience is unique? That would be a head trip...I am saying the word people have used when I have told them the stories is Amazing...

See there you go changing the words chosen by the writer to suit yourself...lmao...No wonder you can't get the Bible right...lmao

I don't take anything lightly but your definition of proof is less scientific and robust than mine...obviously.

The evidence has to be repeatable so find others who have had exactly the same thing happen.

You are assuming that I believe in God, by the way I communicate with believers...I have to keep it simple stupid because they have failed everything so far...

Only in your eyes does "Ï believe in God" work because you are one who believes the lies against God so easily...

Sorry but your whole belief system and rationality is anti-God when you believe the Bible over common sense and logic.

The Bible is my proof of the lies!

The Bible was written by Psychopaths and manic depressives who claim their mental illnesses were God speaking to them. Even Jesus called sicknesses demons, the devil or evil spirits...lol

AS to an afterlife, I stay unconvinced even with my experiences because I do not want to misrepresent the facts so that the religious run off with my story and claim it is a sign of God.

Great news Foxy - but when religions stop teaching "rotting in the sulphur lakes of hell" I will be more passive in my arguments."

I am debating all manner of indoctrination and flawed beliefs and so my methodology is more robust than others. I don't like doing it but these dills believe utter rubbish and continue to spread it diminishing their own God in the process.

They think all non-believers will rot in hell...I prove them wrong!

I'm sure you realise that the Abrahamic religions make up a huge portion of the world's population, so I really am correcting a huge group of indoctrinated people from thousands of years of unintelligent belief.