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Is there life after death?

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Op2, we all recognise you wish to spew your uninformed opinion all aver subjects the might involve religion. Try the same with the Koran and Hadiths as you might need it in the near future. At least you can post nonsense here now but when Islam holds power you will be considered spewing Hate speech. It might be worth your while attending several Churches to evaluate just what Christians actually do believe.
Posted by Josephus, Friday, 23 March 2018 8:01:21 AM
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Opine2 You won't change Josephus' religious dogma. Just look at the name he's chosen. Josephus was a Jew, and was captured by the Romans and started to write the history of the Jewish nation. He was in a suicide pact and only two remained, him and another. What happened to the another. He was a traitor to his cause, but it started the end of Jewish rule over the temple and Jerusalem. Why the Jews took on the Romans no one really sees the logic. Was not because of Jesus' death, but a vain and silly contest of wills and religious fervor that destroyed their temple, that was not only burned down but looted. The loot paid for the Roman Colosseum.

The trouble with Bible literary believers, is they are people who make excuses for themselves in the name of God. Those that do not adhere to their beliefs obviously are unholy and infidels. His mention of the Koran is of course Islamic phobia. There is nothing wrong with most religions, unless they want to impose their beliefs on others. And quite honestly they must be dull, insecure people who are lost, I've never met any whom I believe is open minded and nice to know. I've met some good clerics, and some awful ones, mainly former Catholic priests, like John Farrel or Father 'F'. Anyway, about life after death, most believe or hope there is another existence, and there's nothing wrong with that. It is the creationists and fundamentalists or alternative religions like Scientology that I dislike. Fancy teaching one's child we walked with dinosaurs, and we did not evolve from primates and are the alpha primate. That we are related DNA wise, to the chimps (98.00% possibly higher) but also 40 other life forms including whales, pigs, even some algae. That all living beings have a connection that took billions of earth years to evolve. That is the miracle, our Earth planet is a beautiful place. Life has been destroyed several times. But it prevailed.
Posted by Bush bunny, Friday, 23 March 2018 2:09:26 PM
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Continued.

Josephus, as an evolutionist, you have to remember, that the holy Bible, is made up of part of the Hebrew Bible, and books written after Jesus' crucifixion?

Look at Genesis the creation. Actually from a scientists point of view, The description of the six day of creation, is almost spot on with the processes of evolution as we know it. Problem, add a few billion years on God's day. How does anyone believe this, fazes me. How long is a day in God time. Come on not 24 hours. Even the most fervent Christians don't believe it was 6 earth days, and we didn't walk with dinosaurs. They are deriding the wonderful natural processes of evolution of living things. Obviously humans have been preying on other humans for millennium, but we are higher primates, and even other higher primates prey on one another too. Anyway, work it out. Without plants and later trees we wouldn't have oxygen. And that we are nitrogen junkies, having 78% of our air is nitrogen, 20% is oxygen, and the rest is CO2 and trace gases. But trees and plants need nitrogen, strange isn't it. So who knows maybe when we die we exchange one set of star stuff to another as we decompose or are burned. That as a lasting memory of life, our brains somehow give us images we want to see and we die peacefully. God bless you all
Posted by Bush bunny, Friday, 23 March 2018 2:27:50 PM
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Josephus...I'm Uninformed?

I quote the Bible's exact verses to prove I am informed, I give links to the information to prove I am informed. You rely on your indoctrinated brainwashed thinking that has held you back in anti-God land all your life.

I should be a breath of fresh air because I tell the truth and prove the truth with the exact verses that prove you wrong.

You said "I am a theology graduate, and have read EVERY VERSE IN THE VARIOUS TRANSLATIONS OF THE BIBLE OVER 40 TIMES in my 77 years, and most of the Hebrew and Greek text so I have nothing for which to apologise.

How many translations of the Bible are there? And how many verses over 40 times?...lmao

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_English_Bible_translations/wiki/List_of_English_Bible_translations

So I gather you are now falsely giving Christianity and Christians like yourself the credit for free speech? lol

So seeing you can't win this debate, you move onto the Muslim problems as a diversion. Shariah is just a Mosaic Law with in some areas being more formalised.

In some juristictions Sharia have formalied the cutting off of hands as a punishment.

Where did that come from?...Jesus said

Matthew 5:29 And if thy right hand offend thee, cut it off, and cast it from thee: for it is profitable for thee that one of thy members should perish, and not that thy whole body should be cast into hell.

It is one of Jesus' most absurd teachings but your Bible says he said it...lmao

SO in the minds of the deluded the law is saving you from hell...lmao

BY arguing what you just argued Josephus you have proved my point. You don't want to hear the truth, you don't want to see the truth in writing, you just want to believe baby Jesus stories. Grow UP!

Look at your own religion's teachings and their histories before you start throwing stones...Correct you first!
Posted by Opinionated2, Friday, 23 March 2018 2:29:15 PM
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//That we are related DNA wise, to the chimps (98.00% possibly higher) but also 40 other life forms including whales, pigs, even some algae.//

40? No, we're related to all of them. Some more closely than others.

//Actually from a scientists point of view, The description of the six day of creation, is almost spot on with the processes of evolution as we know it.//

Umm... no. If you check your Bible, you'll see that God created night, day, the Earth and plants before he created the Sun. That goes against our current understanding of the formation of the solar system. It also goes against our understanding of how plants work. And as for the whole night/day thing without a Sun... WTF?
Posted by Toni Lavis, Friday, 23 March 2018 3:04:22 PM
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To Opinionated2.

Jesus is worth the wait. My name is more by accident to reflect my hopes on waiting for Jesus though. I'm a procrastinator. And by accident this name also reflects much about my faith as well. Imagine that. :)

Your discriptions of your experiences is filling in hole of a question I didn't understand about you. Everything you write seems to come from a perspective of an atheist, except that you fircely stand by your claim that God exists. Is this connected to the various experiences you've had with death to be a cue that there's more? That God exists? I still don't get where your coming from for a lot of what you say, and I don't think this is the topic to sort it all out. But I will agree with you on one thing. The strange parts of our lives are what keep our minds open. They also though she'd some information too, to challenge us or our perspectives of how the world works, and to refute us to say when we are wrong.

Our different perspectives about the bible and about God aside, thanks for sharing the experiences regarding the psysic , and the friends who had died. I've heard of a few others who I trust that shared simular stories. I don't doubt them nor do I have an explaination for them.
Posted by Not_Now.Soon, Friday, 23 March 2018 5:28:32 PM
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