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Posted by leoj, Friday, 5 January 2018 11:16:35 AM
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Foxy,
Roz Ward and her Red/Green ilk wish to turn Australia into a totalitarian State, with all the loss of freedom that goes with it. Anyone who publically states that they want to see the flag of Communism flying over an Australian Government building is a traitor. Here's some reaction to her efforts: "This video by Politicalpostingmumma has gone viral, with over a million and a half views on Facebook. A mother recounts how the program designed to teach far-left gender theory, and to sexualise children, has been instituted in Victoria under the pretext of “anti-bullying”. “Creepy”, as her son described it. She also details the secrecy and evasiveness employed by schools when parents demanded to know what was going on. Let’s shut it down." https://www.xyz.net.au/quote-of-the-daysafe-schools-is-creepy/ Posted by Is Mise, Friday, 5 January 2018 11:54:17 AM
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leoj, great post mate.
Now that is truly worthy of a 'lump in the throat'. And this time it's not vomit, but a euphoric feeling of hope. I want to see more of these 'home truths' so that when these sick queers keep rejecting concerns from reasonable people we can shove these kinds of sick responses back down their own throats. What you describe is awfully like the Massachusetts story. I can't believe that schools are suddenly getting involved with sex related matters when it wasn't that long ago we were told that sex ed was the responsibility of the parents. I look forward to more negative facts about the YES camps attempt at justifying their position and their being brought to account. In time hopefully enough people will come to realise what a major disaster SSM was, and all the deviants and their agenda it has spawned, that we may look forward to a removal or at least a weakening of SSM and all it stands for. Unfortunately it will take longer than I would like. Posted by ALTRAV, Friday, 5 January 2018 12:08:10 PM
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Thank You to ALTRAV, leoj, Is Mise,
Paul, AJ, and others for all your contributions. At last we're ending this discussion in a civil and well reasoned manner. We may not agree on many things - but I have to admit that it is good to hear the opinions of others. Hopefully, it does make us think outside our comfort zones, and look at things from different perspectives. And isn't that what public forums are supposed to do. Just being echo-chambers gets a bit boring after a while. Happy New Year to all and may our discussions continue in a civil manner. Posted by Foxy, Friday, 5 January 2018 12:33:11 PM
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In the video on Safe Schools Victoria it was said that there is no 'opt in' or 'opt out'. Further, parents might not even be informed that the school is exposing the child to the material,
http://www.xyz.net.au/quote-of-the-daysafe-schools-is-creepy/ In NSW, "An epidemic of transgender children is Safe Schools’ legacy" THREE years after it was launched by the Abbott government, the insidious Safe Schools program is to be axed in NSW and replaced with a real anti-bullying program. Kudos to Rob Stokes, the only education minister in the nation honourable enough to tackle the sexual indoctrination program loathed by most parents and defended to the death by fanatical education bureaucrats. “Bullying is a problem, whether you’re being bullied because you’re struggling with your sexuality or being fat or wearing glasses,” said an education source. “All this nonsense about gender fluidity has nothing to do with bullying.” Funding has been allocated for a new program, expected to be ready by Term 3. But incalculable damage already has been done by teaching children that gender and sexuality is fluid, that heterosexuality is not the norm, and that sex is arbitrarily assigned by a doctor at birth. One consequence has been an epidemic in “transgender” children presenting to medical clinics since the advent of Safe Schools in June 2014. ... One of the few doctors willing to criticise the “fashion in child surgical abuse” is Dr John Whitehall, Professor of Paediatrics at Western Sydney University, who questions the “massive intrusion into the minds and bodies of children… It’s a collective madness.” Most transgender children will, “grow out of it through puberty if parents do little more than gently watch and wait… The worst thing that can happen is the child is adopted as a poster child for the school.” With teachers being trained by Safe Schools to think gender is whatever you feel like, “it’s not surprising we’re seeing more kids responding to this propaganda and parents getting on board. It’s very hard for professionals to speak out.” http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/rendezview/an-epidemic-of-transgender-children-is-safe-schools-legacy/news-story/085d5681f6bc3dae2357302ab2bee227 Posted by leoj, Friday, 5 January 2018 4:21:07 PM
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ALTRAV,
What do you mean by, "No-one in the YES camp wants to acknowledge Massachusetts..."? I offered to go through each one of the points in the that piece of hyperbole and you declined? Care to go through it now? Here, let's start with this little nugget: "Since homosexual marriage became “legal” the rates of HIV / AIDS have gone up considerably in Massachusetts. This year public funding to deal with HIV/AIDS has risen by $500,000. As the homosexual lobby group MassEquality wrote to their supporters after successfully persuading the Legislature to spend that money: "With the rate of HIV infections rising dramatically in Massachusetts, it's clear the fight against AIDS is far from over."" The problem for this claim being, of course, that the rate of HIV infection in Massetusetts has gone down since the introduction of same-sex marriage, when population growth is taken into consideration: http://www.mass.gov/eohhs/docs/dph/aids/2016-profiles/epidemic-glance.pdf Which would make sense given that marriage, if anything, would promote monogamy. Your turn. Pick one. Posted by AJ Philips, Friday, 5 January 2018 4:39:28 PM
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Roz Ward's Marxism doesn't seem to support freedom of speech,
"Safe Schools: tell concerned parents ‘tough luck!’
REBECCA URBANThe Australian12:00AM March 22, 2016
Safe Schools operatives have been coaching educators to dismiss parental concerns over the contentious sex and gender-diversity program, asserting that parents are powerless to shut it down.
A Safe Schools national symposium was told by the program’s Victorian co-ordinator, Roz Ward, that schools could ignore concerns raised about the agenda.
“When people do complain then school leadership can very calmly and graciously say, ‘You know what? We’re doing it anyway, tough luck’!” she told more than 300 attendees."
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“(It’s) not about celebrating diversity; not about stopping bullying,” Ms Ward said.
“(It’s) about gender and sexual diversity. About same-sex attractive, about being transgender, about being lesbian, gay, bisexual — say the words — transgender, intersex. Not just, ‘Be nice to everyone; everyone’s great’.”
Safe Schools project manager Joel Radcliffe, a fellow academic at La Trobe University, which spawned the program, told the audience that the issue of parental concern came up a lot when schools were considering whether to join the program.
“Parents … seem to have a lot of power (in) schools,” he said. “Parents don’t have the power to shut this down.”
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“Just as proselytising is not part of the school chaplaincy program, advocacy must not be part of the Safe Schools program,” Senator Birmingham said ...
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/education/safe-schools-tell-concerned-parents-tough-luck/news-story/cc2e9d420e9cddf5ddf1d94849d0d9f4