Is Mise,

I have explained to you multiple times
that these figures (61.6% YES
and 38.4% NO) are representative of those eligible
voters who chose to vote, rather than being
representative of all eligible Australians.

That's all I can say.

See you on another discussion.

For me this one has run its course.

Cheers.

Foxy,

"I have explained to you multiple times
that these figures (61.6% YES
and 38.4% NO) are representative of those eligible
voters who chose to vote,"

That is wrong, WRONG!! (for emphasis)

Your quote, for which you refuse to give a reference (can't?) of

"61.6% 0f the Australian population votes YES"

is not representative of the eligible voters who voted, it can only be representative of a section of the whole population of Australia and as such is a lie.
Such lies need to be nipped in the bud, or like your reference to the same claim in the Financial Review, they will be repeated as truth.

Why do you want to support an untruth?

Philips, one thing I have learned from all of this is that SSM IS actually not legal in Massachusetts. It all started when some soft cock judge gave a 'ruling' on a case between a queer and someone else. He found in favour of the queer, citing the constitution. No idea what the case was about.

Apparently the judiciary is not empowered to make laws, the govt is. Courts and police and the like are there to enforce the law. The judge shoud have ruled against the queer as it was not law.

SSM law has never been passed in Massachusetts. Apparently the then Governor, Romney, pissed in the ear of some public officials and it all went downhill from there.

I don't doubt the veracity of those articles. The facts mentioned within are still evident today, even if some have changed in some way or do not apply any more. I don't know. The reason for highlighting this document was to warn people of what we are heading for. Safe schools and all.

A most important fact is that all this happened even though it was not legal. We can expect much worse because in Aus it is now law.

I don't know how you can condone this type of behaviour.

You can call me all the names you want, I will not shy away from what is right, and will be actively engaged in righting this wrong at every opportunity.

So unless congress has passed it since, SSM is illegal in Massachusetts!

So all that followed such as all the events listed in the link are illegal, I don't know why the situation still exists.

Dear Is Mise,

Kindly read my initial post on page 8 and
tell me that what I said was wrong.

Blind Freddie can understand what was
being said - why can't you?

It was clearly explained in that post who
the 61.6% and the 38.4% were - of the
population that voted. How difficult is
that for you to comprehend. I think
you're just playing games here old chap.
And it is getting tedious.

Foxy,

The only thing that is tedious is your refusal to admit that you were wrong.

You quoted,

"61.6% of the Australian population votes YES"

Where does the quote come from?

Just accurately reference the quotation and I'll shut up.

Simple is it not?

Or did you make up the quote?

ALTRAV,

I see I'm now going to have to educate you in the Common Law system. I suppose I have time for that, provided the change of pace in your last post occurred because you now understand what was happening in our last little discussion.

Same-sex marriage is LEGAL in Massachusetts.

In the Common Law system, judges can make law, and do so through their decisions (i.e. precedence or case law). Lawmakers can legislate to override case law, but could not in this instance as doing so would have been unconstitutional. Therefore, same-sex marriage in Massachusetts is law - whether or not it is enshrined in statute.

<<The facts mentioned within are still evident today even if some have changed in some way or do not apply any more.>>

The one we looked at, with regards to HIV, never applied. It was always a lie.

<<You can call me all the names you want …>>

I have not yet called you names.

<<... I will not shy away from what is right …>>

You have not yet demonstrated that anything about your position is right. All you have demonstrated thus far is that you do not understand the Common Law system, and that your position on the issue of homosexuality and same-sex marriage are based entirely on an irrational hatred, ignorance, and internet rumours.

<<... and will be actively engaged in righting this wrong at every opportunity.>>

Find something that is actually wrong, and I will join you. I suggest you start educating yourself on the issues first, though. Anyone who thinks that homosexuality is a disorder, and that same-sex marriage in Massachusetts is illegal, is ignorant on a monumental level.