"The same sex marriage bill has been passed in our
parliament. It is time for you to move on....."

Extremely well said Foxy. I am not black, I am not Muslim, I am not gay, never have been any of those, I am not a lot of things. What I hope I am, is tolerant and respectful of others who have a different culture, different beliefs, who are different in many ways. Underneath we are all the same people. I am not so idealistic that I believe everything, and everyone is perfect, that all is rosy, but more binds us than separates. that in itself is something the ignorant cannot understand. If you look different, speak different, act different, or you are economically different, the rich and poor, then you are to be treated with suspicion and kept in your place.
The ignorant belief of the intolerant is that to give others the same rights as they themselves enjoy, will cause them to loose what they exclusively have now. That has been proven time and again not to be true. That was the biggest obstacle faced by the black civil rights movement in the US in the 1960's. The SSM right in Australia, cannot compare with many of the massive struggles for human rights that have taken place in the past, but it was a small victory by a minority to obtain a right that the majority took for granted. Such victories, large or small, are always worthwhile.

ALTRAV,

Is that the same Roz Ward who was suspended from La Trobe University

"... in May 2016 she was suspended by La Trobe University for a Facebook post where she wrote “Now we just need to get rid of the racist Australian flag on top of state parliament and get a red one up there and my work is done”.

Is she also a Green by any chance?

The Roz Ward who recently claimed that 'up to half of young people are gay'.

Ward must not have access to this,

SEX AND GENDER DIVERSITY IN THE 2016 CENSUS

http://www.abs.gov.au/ausstats/abs@.nsf/Lookup/by%20Subject/2071.0~2016~Main%20Features~Sex%20and%20Gender%20Diversity%20in%20the%202016%20Census~100

A red clown's nose for Comrade Ward. And more red noses for the clowns in the Victorian government who let her loose.

Dear ALTRAV,

As I've stated so many times on this forum in the past -
everything is relative, everything has its story;
and everyone has obstacles to overcome. They are our
greatest teachers. Each of us goes through transitions
and transformations. The important thing is that we
acknowledge them and learn from them.

I feel that it is important to be conscious and
compassionate and act with great civility. It is
also important to speak your mind without malice or
anger. To show tolerance and kindness to each other.
If we all tried to do that, I'm sure that the world
would be a better place.

Dear Paul,

Thank You for your post.

You actually put a lump in my throat.

Beautifully expressed and a good note to end this
discussion on.

cont'd ...

I'm not all that interested in Roz Ward - but I do find
it rather odd that the same people who consistently
rave on about "freedom of speech," and who
will defend the outrageous statements of public
speakers like Milo Y., are the ones now hurling rocks
at a female for expressing her own controversial political
views on her Facebook page.

It would seem therefore that
certain views are acceptable - not matter how outrageous,
as long as they agree with one's own political viewpoints.
Whilst other are bad! There's a word for that -
hypocrite, comes to mind!

Here's what "The Conversation" had to say on the subject:

http://theconversation.com/academic-freedom-and-the-suspension-of-roz-ward-60375

P1405, I have moved on and what I found was not good . No-one in the YES camp wants to acknowledge Massachusetts for some reason. I bring it up, but no takers. Could it be that this is a window into our future, and the YES camp don't want it to become general knowledge?

Is Mise and leoj, thanks for the heads up. I have never heard of her before. Or if I have it must have been a while ago and since forgotten.

I don't see people like her as offering any 'real' input into the public system, only grief and anguish.

She is typical of the maggots I speak of. She seems to be part of the problem.

I'd like to know how she got access to our children.

Foxy, what you wrote is very comforting.

What you wrote was also the mantra to 'political correctness'. I have explained many times, we must destroy PC as it is a disease that if allowed to continue, will be our downfall.

The true meaning of PC is to 'lie'. If one is not allowed to speak freely without exception, their message will not be conveyed in it's entirety.

The spineless ones try to push PC as promoting politeness and kindness towards one another, rubbish.

If I believe someone to be bad or worse, I am not going to sugar coat it so as to not hurt their feelings.

Again feelings have no place in discussions or debates.

P1405's last post is a perfect example of PC fantasy. It 'actually put a lump in your throat'. That's amazing I felt it too, but it turned out to be vomit.