Rusty Catheter,

First, the 'bandwagon' (fallacy) - 'everyone is doing it', a monstrous lie in any event where heterosexual women and anal penetration is concerned, is being employed for the cynical, selfish benefit of whom? The research reported in the prestigious British Medical Journal (link already given) contest that for starters!

Then you posit, or was that threaten adverse political effects?, that 'they' the heterosexual women who allegedly desire and demand anal penetration, 'have considerable capacity to enforce their own preferences, being financially and domestically independent'. Is that also, 'all the best people are doing it'? What obvious bollocks and irrelevant anyhow!

Followed up with other fallacious nonsense such as the Straw Man, "'people'(sic) are not stopping because you say so". Insinuating that as the messenger, I might be trying to impose my own views on women and girls and somehow blocking their access to that highly desired anal sex you claim they are after (and in droves, yeah, right!).

I have been very clear about what I am objecting to. Rather than re-stating that yet again, here is one of my posts,

<Foxy, "anal sex is not limited to gays"

Again, it is entirely misleading and wrong to imply as this does, that heterosexual women are willing parties, seeking and appreciating anal penetration.

In fact the reverse seems to be true and women are being sexually bullied and abused, as already discussed in previous posts. -Posts that were in response to another poster's statement, page 17, where the same misleading bald statement was made without necessary qualification.

It was not a subject that I raised and it would be a travesty, despicable, if such an impression was allowed to stand when so many women and girls are being treated so abominably.

It is a disturbing read,
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/women/mother-tongue/11554595/Pornography-has-changed-the-landscape-of-adolescence-beyond-all-recognition.html?placement=CB3
Posted by leoj, Sunday, 17 December 2017 9:04:16 PM, page 26>

leoj,

You're at it again. With your generalisations and
sweeping statements. The statements made earlier
that stated not only homosexuals have anal sex and
also that not all homosexuals have anal sex happen
to be facts. Yet you go on about women and young
girls being forced to have anal sex. That may be true
for some - but what does this topic have to do with
the subject of this discussion. This discussion is
about the same sex marriage bill being passed in our
Parliament and yet you continue to read all sorts
selectively into statements that have nothing to do
with the topic. If you want to continue to go
on ranting about women being forced into anal sex - start
your own discussion - because you are breaking the forum
rules by continuing to do so on my discussion. You're off
topic, and you keep posting the same thing over and over
again.

Go Away and take your megaphone elsewhere.

It is relevant.

Yet again, below is the statement on page 17 of the thread that gives the misleading impression that heterosexual women, in numbers, are well disposed towards anal sex. That by implication, women generally are accepting by desire and choice of anal penetration, and consent is freely being given, which is absolute rot.

[Rusty Catheter to another poster], "The US Survey of Family Growth recorded that roughly 30% of heterosexuals have engaged in anal sex, about one-third of those ongoing. Even allowing variation, Australia will have more heterosexuals doing so than the total number of homosexuals. In short, heterosexuals do it, probably one in ten of couples you know, and you do in fact lack the fortitude to police the matter".

Even the most basic scrutiny immediately reveals the restrictions, the myriad of problems, in trying to draw any conclusions from that '30%'. For example, many of the women could have been drug users complying (or plying) to get fixes. And what about the problems of informed consent? But then other negative information emerges, such as men are calling 'slips'(!) and likely progressing with the violation.

The article in the British Medical Journal is relevant and is discussed in this news report,

http://metro.co.uk/2017/07/18/teenage-girls-pressured-into-painful-and-coercive-anal-sex-because-of-porn-6788524/?ito=cbshare

leoj,

What does all this have to do with the topic of this
discussion?

Please explain.

Foxy,

It is a monstrous lie that heterosexual women - in any significant numbers at all - are desirous of, demanding and enjoying anal penetration. That is a fantasy and a fabrication. The reverse is seen to be true. Heterosexual women recoil from anal sex and for all sorts of very good reasons, not the least being the nasty stereotype of women's role that most hoped was challenged and buried decades ago,

You make it rather obvious from your persistent attempts at gags, censorship and puppeteering in this thread that it is somehow crucial for you (and your activists' talking points) to USE women, heterosexual women, as cannon-fodder in a campaign to normalise anal sex. I still hope that isn't the case and that you will not continue to be so callously dismissive of women's needs, just to suit your political activist agenda, whatever that might be.

How is it that you can duck the i port of the research in the British Medial Journal (BMJ, previous link)? - It is likely that many women (and regrettably, girls) are subjecting themselves to anal sex that they do not want and would not choose if it was up to them. Their selfish partners are using emotional blackmail and other unfair nasty practices to get what they want and disregard the physical and emotional welfare of the women who are just convenient holes. - Back to the Fifties?

Maybe you should be having a few thoughts about that BMJ report and the negative consequences of the promotion of anal sex for women and girls. It stretches credulity that anyone who claims to be one of OLO's women posters could ever countenance supporting/building a lie for political purposes that heterosexual women are wanting and enjoying anal penetration - or that a condom and lube overcomes all of the risks and 'makes' them enjoy it.

Third para above, 'i port' should be import.