Joe, I was surprised that you thought Trumps speech to the Saudis was
over the top.
I thought it was great and it makes it clear to the Middle Eastern
religious that things have changed and that they had better take
account of that.
If it had been me I would not have supplied them with weapons.
Not unless they had built in disarm ICs that could be activated by
a radio signal.
It is time now that we give up on moslems, this 1400 year war has got
to either end by modifying Islam or cutting off the Middle East and
returning as many as possible, by force if necessary.

If a disease or animal becomes dangerous then we isolate it from
ourselves, so what is the difference ?
Their mental disability is something we cannot do anything about
and it is fundamentally the source of the problem.

Hi Bazz,

Yes, he's a strange man: he gives over $ 150 billion worth of armaments, so he thinks he can tell them to get their house in order, IN their house, as a guest, i.e. he shames people with an obsession about shame and honour. Dumbest.

Unfortunately, we can't, as the song says, live in a world of our own: we are in the world, and so are 1.5 billion Muslims. We can't pen them up. We obviously can't disappear them somehow.

Yes, they have a problem with the extremes of their religion, which suggests that, in the modern world, they have a problem with their religion per se. We can't keep ignoring that, and neither can they. We can't force people to think differently, or throw away their holy books in one go.

This is going to be a very long process, with Muslims in very many countries rubbing up against the realities of the modern world. Hopefully, bit by bit, people will ever so slightly modify their beliefs, a bit here and a bit there, over time, perhaps generations. In Australia, we have to be more clear about what we stand for, and what we don't approve of, particularly in relation to women's rights.

Caroline Overington had an article in The Australian about Muslim women having to use a swimming pool behind a screen, because men might perve on them and (I think) as well, they believe that women pollute, especially by their blood. Well, that's not really the women's problem, it's MEN's problem, and it should be up to men to do something about their urges or fears - it shouldn't be up to women to shut themselves away for the convenience of men. If men have a problem, they deal with it, they don't put it on women to deal with.

Of course, it may be more complicated in that situation: if people believe that women contaminate water - after all they BLEED - and since blood is toxic or dirty, then of course women are dirty, and men could get contaminated.

A longroad.

Joe

Some interesting developments in the USA:

http://edition.cnn.com/2017/05/23/politics/john-brennan-house-intelligence-committee/

We shall have to wait and see what (if anything) happens
next.

It's interesting that those who would brush the investigation into the Trump campaign's Russian connection off as a few lefties unable to accept the election result were totally silent when the racist Birthers were falsely questioning Obama's place of birth.

Dear AJ.,

Republican nominee for the 2008 US Presidential election
John McCain did speak out for the fact that Obama was
born in the USA. McCain was an honorable man.

We'll have to wait and see how many "Honorable" Republicans
there are left today.

More on Trump news on the web:

http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/trump-retain-private-attorney-marc-kasowitz-russia-investigation-n763866