Fact: Job is the grandson of Abraham, as a person. The book is written over 1,000 years later from the character and his conflict in Ur [Babylon].
Moses crossed the Red Sea on dry ground, during an Earthquake in the area causing a tsunami that buried the following Egyptians pursuing them as chariots are found today under the Red Sea.

Thanks for that, Josephus.

On thousand years is a long time. Given how badly a game of Chinese whispers goes, I wouldn’t place much faith in the accuracy of a story documented 1000 years after the fact. Especially in those times.

The chariots supposedly found in the Red Sea is a hoax that Christians insist on passing around (http://www.snopes.com/religion/redsea.asp). There is no evidence for Moses, and a lot of evidence to the contrary.

Dear Paul1405,

You may be interested in Kirsch’s “God against the gods”. It tells about the struggle between polytheism and monotheism in early Christianity.

Monotheism didn’t have a complete victory since Christians split God up into three parts, and the saints are in effect, minor Gods, that one can pray to instead of praying to big daddy or his main sidekick, Jesus.

If there is only one God and he is all-knowing, all-powerful and all-benevolent why does he need Jesus? Maybe it's like Batman and Robin.

'Progressives' pursue, bait and burn(sl) Christians as the new witches.

Why do 'Progressives' fear Christianity? Yet the same 'Progressives' are so soft, permissive, inclusive and nurturing, where Islam is concerned?

'Islam vs Christianity' is the thread. But for the 'Progressives', the totalitarian creed and socio-political system that escaped from the Middle Ages to the present day without reformation - the one that is so nasty to women and gays and with considerable malice aforethought - is the one to which the blind eye is being turned.

As an observer with no skin in the game, except for a fervent wish for a return of freedom of speech, and a dislike of totalitarianism, it is fascinating (another over-used and abused 'Progressive' word) to watch.

Perhaps this book review can attempt to explain,
http://thefederalist.com/2016/07/15/why-are-progressives-on-an-anti-christian-witch-hunt/
her bio,
"Rachel Lu is a senior contributor at The Federalist. She has a PhD in philosophy from Cornell University and teaches at the University of St Thomas. As a Robert Novak Fellow, she is currently researching criminal justice reform. Her non-academic work can be found in Touchstone Magazine, the Public Discourse and Crisis Magazine. She is also a former Peace Corps Volunteer."

Hi Paul,

Yes! Isn't he magnificent ? One time, we stopped on the road to Hokianga to go and see him, and came up against a huge wall. I thought, "Where's this tree ?" Of course, that wall WAS the tree, his body. I gave him a hug, (as much as it's possible to hug a huge wall) as I'm sure you've done, I don't know if that was right.

Hi David,

Like many other people, I struggle to understand - theoretically,from an atheist's viewpoint - what is meant by a Triune god, three in one, etc.: somewhere it says that Jesus sits on the right hand of god, yet Jesus IS supposed to be god. How can one sit on one's own right hand ? Meanwhile, the Holy Spirit flits around in the background. I suppose early Jewish-Christians felt a need to have an earthly link to their god, so he was written up as if he had had a son, via a woman. But the awkward bit was: how ? I guess this is where the Holy Spirit came in: god had to fertilise a woman, a virgin, Mary, but rather than do the business in person, or 'person', he used a surrogate. Oh, happy Holy Spirit ! Thanks, boss!

Islam gets around all this by declaring that Allah is one, alone, with no kids, and certainly with no contact with anything as filthy as a woman.

Having by now offended both Christians and Muslims, can I just point out what most of you already know, that sex is beautiful, it can be a sign of the deepest love and dedication. Why deny it to your god ? Even the Greeks gave Zeus plenty of opportunities to 'consort' with whomever he liked. And in that way, in Christianity at least, god could be four-in-one, Quadrune, really four gods, including Mary, the mother of his child - with the holy spirit perhaps somewhat superfluous.

Jut trying to make sense of a theory.

Joe

Dear leoj,

There is much wisdom in Christianity. However, there is intolerance and arrogance there also. There is the sense of having a truth denied to others. Many Christians want all to follow their religion. When flaws in Christianity are pointed out some Christians react angrily and term it an anti-Christian crusade and a witch hunt forgetting that Crusades and witch hunts are Christian specialties. Our society to a large extent is a Christian society, and many of our flaws are Christian flaws. We forget our history.

Regarding the Muslim treatment of women we ignore the fact that it’s only in recent history that women in our society have the vote and control of their property. We forget that only the Church of England was recognised in the early settlement of Australia.

I regard some of the sayings of Christianity as very wise. These Christian sayings are most important to me.

1 Judge not, that ye be not judged.
2 For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.
3 And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?
4 Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye; and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye?
5 Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye.
— Matthew 7:1-5 KJV

It is much easier to call criticisms of our Christian society antichristian witch hunts and crusades and to condemn Islam than to take a look at the beams in our eye. In order to make our society better we should be able to look at ourselves.

I am not a Christian so I cannot speak for Christians, but I would appreciate it if Christians were more aware of their own failings. The words of Jesus recommend it.