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Islam vs Christianity

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Dear ttbn,

Christianity has a history of forced conversions, massacring those who refused to convert and even massacring those of another religion without giving them the opportunity to convert.

Fletcher’s “The Conversion of Europe from Paganism to Christianity: 371-1386” tells the story of that conversion from the adoption of Christianity as the official religion of the Roman Empire until the conversion of Lithuania. Ireland was the only country converted to Christianity without violence.

Several crusades took place against Lithuania before they became Christian.

The adoption of Christianity by Rome was the beginning of official persecution of non-Christians.

From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theodosius_I:

The Christian persecution of Roman religion under Theodosius I began in 381, after the first couple of years of his reign in the Eastern Roman Empire. In the 380s, Theodosius I reiterated Constantine's ban on former customs of Roman religion, prohibited haruspicy on pain of death, pioneered the criminalization of magistrates who did not enforce laws against polytheism, broke up some pagan associations and tolerated attacks on Roman temples.

Between 389–392 he promulgated the "Theodosian decrees"[20] (instituting a major change in his religious policies),[21]:116 which removed non-Nicene Christians from church office and abolished the last remaining expressions of Roman religion by making its holidays into workdays, banned blood sacrifices, closed Roman temples, confiscated temple endowments and disbanded the Vestal Virgins.[22] The practices of taking auspices and witchcraft were punished. Theodosius refused to restore the Altar of Victory in the Senate House, as asked by non-Christian senators.[21]:115

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Posted by david f, Monday, 24 April 2017 11:42:41 AM
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Christianity has a horrible record of massacring Jews. One of the many examples:

From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhineland_massacres

"The call for the First Crusade touched off the Rhineland massacres also known as the German Crusade of 1096,[1] the persecutions of 1096 or Gzerot Tatenu[2] for the edicts of 856, which occurred during the year of 4856 according to the Jewish calendar. Prominent leaders of crusaders involved in the massacres included Peter the Hermit and especially Count Emicho.[3] As part of this persecution, the destruction of Jewish communities in Speyer, Worms and Mainz were noted as the "Hurban Shum" (Destruction of Shum).[4] These were new persecutions of the Jews in which peasant crusaders from France and Germany attacked Jewish communities."

Hitler’s persecution and massacre of the Jews was supported by most of the German Christian churches.

With the Inquisition, burning dissenters and heretics at the stake, enslaving native peoples, and slaughtering ‘witches’ Christianity has a far greater record of violence than Islam.

Unfortunately most Christians are ignorant of the sheer evil in the lamentable record of Christian history and can point out how bad other religions are.
Posted by david f, Monday, 24 April 2017 11:56:56 AM
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Interesting David F.
I think we can see here the echo in Islam of the Christian intolerance of the Jews.
It is is easy to see why Islam just adopted this intolerance but
with the doctrine of the unchangability of the Koran and no
enlightenment the Islamic hatred of Jews is there forever.
It seems to fit in with their difficulty in accepting modernisation.
Posted by Bazz, Monday, 24 April 2017 2:47:40 PM
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and yet today the most hateful bigotted people in the West are Darwinians.
Posted by runner, Monday, 24 April 2017 2:50:37 PM
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David f,

OK. But I'm talking about now (perhaps I should have made that clearer). Islam has not changed since the 7th Century. Christianity has.
Posted by ttbn, Monday, 24 April 2017 2:57:53 PM
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Ttbn Christianity was indeed primitive . The Spanish butchered the South Americans as they were heathen .What were the crusades . The Muslim Saladin showed more mercy than the Christians doing gods work . Christianity has had it's reformation it's renaisance. We have separated church and state. Henry the 8th was only partly marrying Anne Boleyn searching for a son . But also appropriating the churches propety
Posted by the pilot, Monday, 24 April 2017 4:57:01 PM
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