Yes, Joe, it appears a compromise has been reached in which the stunning process occurs immediately after the throat is slit - which is still not good.

Also in the press today: a bloke has got off on a charge of 'marrying' a 14-year-old, with her father's and an imam's permission. He was charged with multiple counts of penetration, yet that didn't seem to count as rape of a minor, or false imprisonment. Neither the father nor the imam were found guilty of any offence, either.

Current number of cases of under-age 'marriage' successfully prosecuted: 0

See ? No cases. Ever. It doesn't happen, it's all Islamophobic propaganda.

Joe

Hi AJ,

I think the stunning is supposed to take place before the throat-slitting, not after, when it would be a bit late, even during the slow bleeding required by halal, to keep animals mindful of their love of Allah as long as possible.

Joe

Ritual Slaughter - call a shovel a shovel.

The Australian federal government legislated for humane slaughter and the regulations were in place.

The regulations are still in place, but exemptions allow for ritual slaughter for two religions. Both religions mandate that the animal be at the point of consciousness (the best that government has been able to achieve from the two bullying religions) when the luckless animal's throat is slit.

The allowance is for the animal to be 'partially' stunned, but it must be reversible and NOT to the point of death, irreversible, as required by the humane standard of the federal slaughtering regulations.

It should be noted that these medieval religions do not take account of humane slaughter at all and they do not consider for instance that over the years better breeding and management has dramatically increased the size of food animals. That has connotations for the animal handling. Also the neck area is far thicker and the blood vessels deeper.

Outside of the major works there are smaller ones and boutique, where there is NO prior stunning at all. Individual butchers and individuals themselves may purchase animals for stock sales and handle, transport and slaughter them as they wish in accord with their religions. It is not usually of any interest to the feds how other animals, examples being fish and crustaceans are handled, by restaurants for instance. The feds, all political parties, look the other way, lest they create ethnic angst and lose votes in marginal seats.

Over the decades the treatment of immigration as a sacred cow and the multiculturalism that sprang from that, has ensured that editors are reluctant to print any ethnic 'criticism'.

AJ,

"Looks like vegemite isn’t the only Kosher product I’ll be boycotting"

NO!! Don't do it.
Vegemite is still Vegemite no matter what the certification.

I'll never give up my Vegemite.

Dear Paul,

Concepts of goodness/badness are human, but so is the concept of 'tree'. One could think of a culture that does not have a concept of 'tree': perhaps they just overlook it all as "forest" or "nature" without paying attention to that detail, but the not-being-called-tree is still there!

Similarly, there are traits of character which tend to promote one's ability to relate directly with God and there are other traits of character which tend to hinder it. Not all cultures have a concept for these traits and even those who do, occasionally err in their classification. The human concepts of "good" and "bad" largely overlap those traits, but in some cultures less than in others.

Just like any other attribution, to attribute God with existence would have placed a limitation on Him. Nevertheless, the feeble human mind is so besotted with the concept of existence, that the belief that "God exists" can inspire many people to try doing good, avoiding evil and improving their character in preparation to "meet Him".

When you finally do meet God, all you discover is yourself, your true self, there is no one else, never been another. However, the same is also true for others, so if you go against the "Golden-Rule" and treat others in ways that you would hate being treated like yourself, then you would find it very hard and resist discovering that you and them are in fact all one in God, which would imply that when you believed that you were hurting them, you were actually hurting yourself.

Finding a meaning in life, including in afterlife, is one booby-prize of religion. In fact it can become an obstacle that brings one to rest on their laurels rather than continue to strive till the goal is reached. Once discovering God directly, which is your own true self, in that ecstatic bliss all concepts fail, then any "meaning" and similar mind-games pale into insignificance.