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Not all Muslim are terrorists but almost all Moslems are potential terrorists.
Posted by Is Mise, Saturday, 1 April 2017 6:08:17 PM
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"Of course, the overwhelming majority of Muslims
are not terrorists or sympathetic to terrorists. Equating all Muslims with terrorism is stupid and wrong. But acknowledging that there is a link between Islam and terror is appropriate and necessary". (Ayaan Hirsi Ali). Posted by Foxy, Saturday, 1 April 2017 6:25:23 PM
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Dear Foxy,
I saw Ayaan Hirsi Alis talk one night, awhile ago, on the TV show Big Ideas. I haven't read her book as you have, but I was so impressed with her sane view and impressive intelligence. I knew nothing of her until I saw her that night, and I was so impressed I have never forgotten her. If only women like her were in charge in Muslim societies. That is actually what the religion needs, women with enough power to temper the excesses and selfish attitudes of the men. With men it is all about them and their sexual needs, with women it is much more inclusive and nurturing to a whole society. Societies where women have no say, don't tend to advance and thrive,because men like to hold onto power for themselves, no matter what the consequences, with no understanding for the unhappiness and misery they cause. Instead of threatening women like Ayaan, it would be better for Muslim men to understand, that letting women like Ayaan share power with them, would benefit Islam and Muslim societies and themselves like they never dreamed. It is the way forward for their religion. Thats what I think. I will look forward to her talk. Posted by CHERFUL, Saturday, 1 April 2017 9:54:47 PM
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CHERFUL,
You raise a very good point, that Islam has much more to answer for than terrorism. It is very clear that the apologists for Islam (on OLO too) are cleverly trying to bracket criticism of Islam as being solely about terrorism. That allows the apologists to then declare that it is only some madmen, just a few, who the apologists then say have got the 'wrong take' of Islam. That enables the tarpaulin to be pulled over the abuses of women (and men too!) by the bullies who benefit from the unreformed, medieval creed. While Ayaan Hirsi Ali will undoubtedly comment on terrorism, she would also be saying that the politically correct 'White Knights' and ors who are apologists for Islam should not have such low, patronising expectations of Muslims in Australis and NZ, that they would not expect them to be critical and be trying to do something about the misogyny affecting Muslim women and girls. To be blunt, we should always have the confident expectation that Muslims welcomed to Australia and who have made this country home, should be modelling the values of this society and Australian law and actively denouncing the medieval practices of Islam. Which begs the question as to why this woman was held up to be a 'Muslim expert' by the ABC, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eMs5eBO-xfs Posted by leoj, Sunday, 2 April 2017 9:51:00 AM
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Dear CHERFUL,
Thank You for your post. I clearly remember the effect her first book, "Infidel," had on me. I bought several copies as gifts for friends. Today Ayaan Hirsi Ali is one of the most admired and of course, controversial political figures. She is under constant threat as she refuses to be silenced. As Western governments struggle to balance democratic ideals with religious pressures Ayaan Hirsi Ali,and her books, could not be more timely or more significant. I shall definitely be watching Q&A this Monday evening (3rd April 2017). I encourage everybody to watch this particular evening. It promises to be an immensely important and necessary program and it should be viewed as widely as possible. Posted by Foxy, Sunday, 2 April 2017 9:53:21 AM
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Islam is not only cruel to humans, dogs, under Islam, lead a very poor life.
A dog, in the West, man's best friend is loathed in Islam, witness the Muslim taxi drivers who have tried to not carry Seeing-Eye dogs. Posted by Is Mise, Sunday, 2 April 2017 10:36:37 AM
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