Iftikhar: Nothing is being said about the Hindoos or Sikhs who just like Muslims wish to preserve their thousands of year old tried and tested culture.

That’s true, but they are not a danger to the Culture & Country to which they have immigrated, unlike Islam.

Iftikhar: If Britain is so integrated then why do we see the " Clash of civilisations" spill out in the streets of British cities in most violent form.

True, but why is it always moslems demanding a Caliphate & The British saying “NO” to a Caliphate & Halal. Moslems are not integrating they want to envelop & destroy. If Western Values are so bad why are so many moslems leaving the Islamic lands for the West? A better life under Western freedoms. Freedom's that you want to destroy & turn into a State just like the ones you fled. Strange that.

Ifitikhar: An English colleague of a Muslim confided to him that how lucky were Muslims.

That, I would say is a bald face lie. Western men trust their wives. Unlike moslems men. I remember one prominent Somali Imam saying would you leave your front door open when you leave on business. He was explaining why Somali moslems stich their wives Vulvas up with Acacia thorns when they leave the house. It’s also the explains why Islamic fighters take their wives into battle because if they leave them at home their neighbour will rape them. Then they would have to kill their wives when they came home for being unfaithful.

Ifitikhar: We would like to confirm again that we practising Muslim believers will never ever adopt or integrate into all these "destructive and immoral values":

Then I suggest moslems stay well away from all Western Countries. All moslems should pack up go back to the ME where you all get along so well.

Ifitikhar are you ignoring me? Why haven’t you answered the questions I asked of you many discussions ago. That’s very rude, you know. Afraid?

It is easy to say" Go back to where you came from", but do not forget that British Muslims are actually born and educated here. They are in the unenviable position of trying to combine two different worlds. That is no easy. We do not want to change you lot but we would like to see our children getting balanced Islamic education along with National Curriculum. We would like our children to learn and be well versed in standard English to follow the National Curriculum and go for higher studies and research to serve humanity. At the same time we would like our children to learn and be well versed in Arabic, Urdu and other community languages to keep in touch with their cultural roots and enjoy the beauty of their literature and poetry. A Muslim is a citizen of this tiny global village. He/she does not want to become notoriously monolingual Brit. Bilingualism is an asset but British schooling regards it as a problem.

A report by the Institute for Community Cohesion found that native parents were deserting some schools after finding their children out numbered by pupils from ethnic minorities. Schools in parts of England are becoming increasingly segregated. The study focused on 13 local authorities. Many of the schools and colleges are segregated and this was generally worsening over recent years. This is RACISM because British society is the home of institutional racism. My statement regarding Muslim schools where there is no place for non-Muslim child or a teacher is based on educational process and not on racism. Muslim children need Muslim teachers during their developmental periods. For higher studies and research, Muslim teacher is not a priority.
IA
http://www.londonschoolofislamics.org.uk

Well we could ask an Islamic government to fund schools for just Christians and pay Christian teachers . The school at Mecca for English Christians comes to mind.

Loudmouth "Let culture and religion take a back seat, while their adherents analyse their defects."

But nobody thinks *their* ways are defective. Otherwise, they would live differently.

That's why our old "evil" (i.e. wise) immigration policy restricted entry to people off similar cultures.

Hi Shockadelic,

'Culture and religion' in relation to human rights, is what I meant.

No, I'm confident that many migrants and refugees have the capacity to reflect on their new situation and the rights and obligations that go with living in Australia, and compare it, eventually, to the situations in their homelands. Hopefully, they will come to see the value of Australian values (often dishonoured in the breach) of equality of all before the same law, democracy, merit-based opportunity, etc.

Oops, I forgot about some more recent invasions:

* Russia's invasion of Georgia;

* Russia's invasion of the Crimea;

* Russia's invasion of the Ukraine;

* Turkey's invasion of parts of northern Iraq and Syria, and of Kurdistan.

I'm sure there have been others, Ethiopia's invasion of Somalia perhaps, China's 'invasion' of international territory in the south China Sea, Saudi Arabia in the Yemen.

Can we talk of the invasion by Buddhists in Burma of Rohingya territory, i.e.Arakan/Rakhine State ?

Wow, it's been a busy decade, hasn't it ?

Joe

Ifitikhar: It is easy to say" Go back to where you came from", but do not forget that British Muslims are actually born and educated here. They are in the unenviable position of trying to combine two different worlds.

That's why I say, even though they were born in Britain, they do not belong there. An Ancient Ideology & the Modern World cannot co-exist in the same space. The only choice is to upgrade or leave. Moslims don't want that.

Islam want the entire World to go back to a time before the 7th. Century. Living in Mud huts & Great Castles, Slavery, Domination, Executions, Bestiality, Rape, No Music or Dancing, Forced Child Marriages, FMG, Wives & Children being just Property, Endless War between factions, Living on a flat Earth & watching the Sun travel around the Earth.

What a wonderful life that would be for moslims.

No, moslims around the World should all migrate back to the Middle East, where they can live in their Peaceful Paradise. That would be nice, thank you.