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Dearest Foxy,

Thank you for that brilliant article:

http://rightnow.org.au/opinion-3/the-challenges-of-being-a-muslim-woman-in-a-multicultural-society/

Yes, it's a very difficult path that Muslim women have to travel. I certainly wish them well. And I don't really care what they wear, they can't really hide their beauty and grace, but at least for a lech like me, I know it's 'hands off'.

Nick,

Is that a yes or a no ?

Cheers,

Joe
Posted by Loudmouth, Wednesday, 1 March 2017 5:18:29 PM
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Joe
English suits me fine and I'll keep writing it , I mean it.
Posted by nicknamenick, Wednesday, 1 March 2017 5:35:22 PM
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There is much hullabaloo about integration. The purpose is foul i.e. just to target Muslims. Nothing is being said about the Hindoos or Sikhs who just like Muslims wish to preserve their thousands of year old tried and tested culture.

About integration one can ask as to which society is integrated in Britain ? If Britain is so integrated then why do we see the " Clash of civilisations" spill out in the streets of British cities in most violent form. We can see or hear about the misdeeds of such civilisation, during almost every weekend, in many towns and cities of Britain.

Does anyone remember the clash of Mrs Thatcher's civilisation with that of Mr. Arthur Scargill's at mine heads of Yorkshire? Does this and mountain of other evidences, not prove that Britain is not an integrated society?

Here is another example. An English colleague of a Muslim confided to him that how lucky were Muslims. He said that all of you Muslims may or may not go to Paradise in the next life, but the way I see you lot, you have Paradise here on earth. Asked to explain this, he said that while you are here at work you have utterly no worry as to what your wife must be doing at home. Also while you are at work your wife has no worries about you, and every bit confidant that you may be not be flirting with some female colleague at work but busy doing your days work.

He confided that a majority of us English do not get such peace of mind. In fact most of our life is spent in turmoil and worries.
So who will be prepared to trade peaceful life for life full of turmoil by integrating ?

The following are some thoughts based upon valuable experiences of a learned person who happens to be a Medical doctor.

The British government is again asking us ,Muslims, to adopt the" British values" and to integrate fully into the British way of life
Posted by Iftikhar, Thursday, 2 March 2017 12:53:21 AM
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But many so called "British values" are not acceptable to us.
We would like to confirm again that we practising Muslim believers will never ever adopt or integrate into all these "destructive and immoral values":

-Sexual immorality,sleeping around,affairs,adultery and fornication,illegitimacy,teenage pregnancy, immoral sex education,pills and condoms and Morning after-pill to every one? ( the contraceptive mentality).
-Sexually immoral programmes and messages daily on all TV and many radio channels and in magazines and newspapers.
- The legalisation of homosexuality and homosexual practices(gays and lesbians).
-the culture of death: killing every day 600 innocent unborn babies through abortion..and the killing of our old sick patients after stopping food and fluid to make them die from starvation and dehydration(Mental capacity Bill).
-Alcoholic drinks and drug abuse which are causing hellish problems in all sectors in our society.
-Yob culture
-Gender-bending:women becoming like men and vice versa.
-Disrespect for motherhood and full time mothers.
-Broken families and neglect of elderly parents who are suffering and dying alone.
-Unjust campaign of "Death and destruction" on concocted pretext.

Let us all: people from all faiths(Islam,Christianity...) and from all nationalities: ADOPT FULLY THE DIVINE HUMANE SAFE HEALTHY AND ECONOMICALLY BENEFICIAL VALUES :
*Morality,Chastity and fidelity,heterosexuality.
*Clean safe media.
*The Sacredness of life/Culture of life(no abortion,no assisted suicide and no Euthanasia).
*Avoidance of poisons(alcohol and drugs).
*Clear,natural,healthy,different genders,procreation/full time mothers.
*Healthy,stable extended families with care and love to our weak old parents.
*Peace,not wars.
*No occupation of any one else's land.

Thank GOD,our Christian friends and believers and many other sensible people in our society, do share with us almost all these DIVINE values.
We know it's right,so let's do it.
Posted by Iftikhar, Thursday, 2 March 2017 12:55:22 AM
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*Peace,not wars.
*No occupation of any one else's land.
Islam....
Posted by nicknamenick, Thursday, 2 March 2017 6:55:55 AM
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Hi Nick,

You beat me to it :)

Hi Iftikhar,

So, where is 'Arabia' ? How much country did Arabs invade in the first few hundred years of Islam ? I wouldn't want to suggest that there was anything unusual about invading, it's what every rising power did, right up until, well, 2003 at least.

But please don't come the raw prawn and claim that Arabs or Islam in general are somehow unique in not invading other people's lands. How did Arabs (i.e. Palestinians) get hold of Palestine, for example, except by invading it ?

Pot and kettle. Chickens coming home etc. :)

Cheers,

Joe
Posted by Loudmouth, Thursday, 2 March 2017 7:32:06 AM
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