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Posted by Is Mise, Saturday, 4 March 2017 12:53:11 PM
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Dear Is Mise,
Being a Catholic myself, I agree with the point you are making. The actions of a few should not demonise an entire religion. Although the church's failure to deal with it effectively has done immeasurable damage to the victims. The cover-ups, the protection of abusive clergy and the refusal to admit egregious mistakes are unjustifiable. I wonder if Muslims feel the same way about their religion? The ones I've spoken to apparently do. Posted by Foxy, Saturday, 4 March 2017 1:02:11 PM
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Foxy the video's below are what the Islamists have in mind for Australia. Regardless of how the moderate or progressive feel when the percentage reaches a certain number those people will be intimidated into supporting the hard liners. They will be given no choice. Once the hardliners have the support of those moderates the rest will fall into line. That's what happens in real life.
Here’s the cold hard truth. http://100percentfedup.com/wow-refugees-exposed-heres-the-cold-hard-truth-the-media-wont-tell-youif-saudi-arabia-is-refusing-to-accept-them-because-they-are-a-national-security-threat-why-are-we-accepti/ Islamic Sharia Law Comes to Great Britain. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IICjsnAQVRc Muslim Sharia Law in Australia. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iN7eQyrDt-U Call for an Islamic State in Australia. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q6uRMdHn25g Current Affair interview: Uthman Badar, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZChhgVAyvs What drives moslim anger. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kHV1b33-vdo Islam radicalisation of Australian children. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-NIm9PfiHok This is the type of school our moderate friend Ifitkhar would set up all over Australia. What then? Posted by Jayb, Sunday, 5 March 2017 8:31:36 AM
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Muslims in the West are not asking for Sharia to be the law of the land. The Law of the land is the only law applicable and executable in affairs of the individuals.
All they are seeking is to let Sharia be available as an alternative to resolve their spousal and contractual disputes between two individuals. That is their prerogative. Indeed, every human, no matter who it is, goes first to their family members and friends for seeking solutions to their problem some will go to their clergy (all religions) and some will appoint a mediator. When Muslims go to their clergy, he or she will look up similar situations in the past and guide the couple or business partners to find a solution, since the immigrant Muslims are familiar with the Sharia laws, they may accept it, and if they do, that is good for them. The problem is that of trust – when the parties agree to the terms per their Imam/clergy, and don’t abide by it, there is no way the aggrieved party can seek damages for the violations. This is what Muslims are asking, to make that binding. Indeed, it would be binding if they go to the judge and say, we have agreed to these terms and conditions per our religious conviction, and seek the judge to sign the order and the court order becomes executable. The judge looks to it as mediator resolved decision and signs it and it will become executable. The right wing Americans are downright stupid and making a bid deal about this, as if Sharia will become the law of the land. What Muslims have is Personal Sharia, that is a private relationship between the individual and God. How they pray, worship, fast, pay zakat, how they bury their individuals, marry per the requirement as a religious rite. All of that is a private matter and does not need any regulation or execution Posted by Iftikhar, Sunday, 5 March 2017 8:45:41 AM
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Iftikhar,
The rules of the country take precedence at all times, the only time that Sharia would be observed in the courts would be if both parties were prepared to stand up in court and swear to agree with it. This would still not stand in custody and child support cases where the family court ignores any contracts. As Sharia disadvantages women, in a divorce, Sharia would only apply if the wife stands up in court and agrees to all the terms. Posted by Shadow Minister, Sunday, 5 March 2017 9:02:04 AM
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Foxy "I can only say that the people that I do know personally
do not hold the views that you claim they do." And the people you know don't drive trucks into crowds either. But some Muslims do, and they do so *because* they're Muslim and we're Infidels. The more Muslims among the Infidels, the more there are to act out their domination fantasies. More Muslims = Increased risk. A risk that is preventable. Posted by Shockadelic, Sunday, 5 March 2017 9:13:25 AM
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Sorry to have taken so long to answer but have been on the road a lot and am sending this from Inverell Public Library, I hope to get home around midnight tonight.
I can only speak from experience.
I attended a Marist Brothers' school and in the nine years that I was there I only knew of one instance of paedophilia, we kids called the offender "Old Slobber Lips" and he was swiftly removed when we complained to our parents.
The particular Brother left the Order and later married, had children of his own and, by all accounts led a blameless life.
I and many other Catholic parents sent/send their children to the same schools as we knew that the chances of molestation were less than in State schools.
The great inquiry into State schools is yet to come as, undoubtedly, there will be an enquiry into Catholic Girls Schools.
Will more Catholics leave their church as a result of the Inquiry?
They shouldn't as the actions of the traitors within their Faith has nothing to do with the truth or otherwise of their religion.