Foxy,

I apologise for for implying that you were an anti semite racist.

What I intended to say was that linking to a clearly anti semetic sites casts you in a similar light.

With respect to this thread I brought up one instance of an Islamic cleric who defended beating women, and you have wiggled out of any criticism of the cleric, first by heavily criticising the catholic church, as if that excused the behaviour of the Islamic Cleric, then by issuing vague motherhood statements.

I have not brought up the other abuses of women such as the many FGM cases in Aus or the force marriage of minors to much older men etc, just this one instance.

Do you condone the Australian Muslim cleric that defended the Koranic right of a husband to beat his wife?

He's got the right to condone it and Koran has the right to teach it.
Germans don't have the right to teach Nazism and Oz nearly didn't have the right to be communist 70 years ago as in US . We have the right to condemn his condoning or to agree. He can condemn our condemning his condoning.

Dear Shadow Minister,

Thank You so much for your apology. It means a great deal
to me coming from you - a person whose opinions as I've
stated previously - I do respect.

As for the Muslim cleric K. Trad's statements?
Of course I do not support them. However,
Mr Trad has released a statement categorically
condemning all violence against women. I believe
he claims to have been misunderstood.

However, be that as it may,- I again repeat -
of course I do not support
violence against women - not matter what the source
may be. And I do not support Trad's previous statements.
I thought that I made it quite clear that
those who do support those actions or follow
those kind of teachings literally, should receive the
full force of our laws.

Thank you.

SM
Now that your q has been answered , will you equally oppose judicial and Church defence and practice of violence against women and girls

Okay - next step in the long process of recognition of Muslim women's rights:

What might be the answers from Muslim clerics to the questions:

Should women always obey their husbands ?

Another one: Should women always come 'to the bed' when asked to by their husband ?

And others:

Should women be allowed out of the house without a male relative as escort ?

Should women be allowed to get their driver's licence ?

Should women be allowed to vote, and vote as they wish ?

Should women be allowed to study what they like ?

Should women inherit an equal share with their brother ?

Should women have equal and same rights to divorce their husbands, and get an equitable share of the break-down of assets ?

Etc. Etc., but that's enough for the next couple of decades. Maybe, by then, Australian feminists will have turned their attention to these issues, too. No, don't ask for too much.

Joe