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"ANARCHIST Greens have declared war on Australia Day, calling for the Aussie flag to be burned, celebrations to be disrupted and protest graffiti to be sprayed on walls and roads as part of a sick anti-Australia campaign.

Federal Greens Leader Richard Di Natale yesterday refused to condemn the shocking demands being made by a group called Left Renewal — a far-Left faction of the NSW Greens.

In a Facebook post, Left Renewal incited its growing band of supporters to take part in “seven days of resistance in the lead up to Invasion Day” — an event organised by a group calling itself the “Warriors of the Aboriginal Resistance”.

For more see:
http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/nsw/australia-day-anarchist-greens-call-for-the-flag-to-be-burned-in-sick-antioz-campaign/news-story/3fcedd240edb50535f717bbd7d241659
Posted by Is Mise, Thursday, 19 January 2017 1:03:25 PM
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Red Greens?
Posted by nicknamenick, Thursday, 19 January 2017 3:14:19 PM
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the greens hate every thing and everyone that has given them the cushy lifestyle they have. They have much in common with Islam.
Posted by runner, Thursday, 19 January 2017 3:26:12 PM
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the colour green
Posted by nicknamenick, Thursday, 19 January 2017 3:27:34 PM
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Why am I not surprised?
Posted by Is Mise, Thursday, 19 January 2017 4:14:11 PM
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Another beat up from the no news, News Very Ltd. Naturally publish in their trashyest of trashy tabloids 'The Daily Tellthemcrap'. Look! the devotees from the rabid right are falling over each other to endorse the rubbish.
Just as some people choose not to celebrate Hitler's Birthday, others choose not to celebrate Invasion Day. If you like, get down to the nearest Two Dollar Shop, and stack up on those silly Chinese imports. Get a stupid hat with ridiculous plastic corks hanging off it, dumb flags you can sick out the back windows of your Korean car, and plastic thongs with the Aussie flag imprinted for your clod hoppers to fit in. In that way you can celebrate Australia Day in style, pretending to be a Paul Hogan or a Barry Mckenzie clone/clown for a day.
Whatever gets your rocks off, it fine with the rest of us.
Posted by Paul1405, Thursday, 19 January 2017 9:12:09 PM
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.. supporters to take part in “seven days of resistance in the lead up to Invasion Day” —
gulp..that starts today. Pommy criminals and naval troops are not easy to detect and red-coats are for London guards. If you meet resistance walk around it muttering oi oi oi.
Posted by nicknamenick, Friday, 20 January 2017 4:52:34 AM
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Hi Nick,

Maybe they could be called something like, I don't know, 'watermelons' ? What do you reckon ?

The Trots have a long history of doctrinaire adherence to the basic religious principles of Leninism, regardless of changing realities, as if the world today is indistinguishable from the world of 1917. Wow, that's a century ago: a hell of a lot has happened since then, but religion always demands that adherents ignore change.

We now have a combined many hundreds of years of actual socialist society, and it has always, always been found wanting, a fraud from its beginnings and a disaster for the workers and peasants who were supposed to be in control from the outset. Where has that happened, where has there ever been a 'workers' and peasants' state' ? Christ, they couldn't even manage it in Cuba.

No, like so many power grabs throughout history, a small clique, using 'the workers and peasants' this time, have climbed to power for their own interests. What a completely bankrupt ideology.

And that's from someone born into it, who worshipped it, tried to apply it, and after many decades, finally learnt.

Joe
Posted by Loudmouth, Friday, 20 January 2017 8:40:41 AM
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Lee Rhiannon is probably behind this proposed disruption, it's typical of the commo mode of operation.
One also wonders why "Invasion Day" is not considered to be when the Fleet arrived at Botany Bay.
One also wonders why the Greens are so keen to increase the "invasion" by their support of illegal arrivals,i.e. backdoor refugees.
Posted by Is Mise, Friday, 20 January 2017 8:47:01 AM
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"workers soldiers and peasants" we have a problem with finding enough soldiers for the revolution.
And the colour problem as anarchists and ISIS are black , Aboriginal Bolsheviks are red:yellow:black and United watermelon Party on top.
A split watermelon looks like a happy face and Greens are unhappy souls.
Posted by nicknamenick, Friday, 20 January 2017 8:47:57 AM
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Paul1405,

There's a world of difference between saying

"I think Australia Day is really Invasion Day and I refuse to celebrate it"

and saying

"I think Australia Day is really Invasion Day and I refuse to let others celebrate it
Posted by mhaze, Friday, 20 January 2017 9:08:27 AM
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Everybody has the right to protest providing it's
done in a manner without causing
damage to either private property or people.
In other words - there is a way to protest.
And gain sympathy for your cause.

However, I don't see the point of this particular
protest. What do these people hope to achieve?
They will alienate so many by their actions -
especially in burning the flag.
And their message (whatever it may be) will be
lost by that one act alone. Not a very intelligent
move. If the greater majority of people in the Greens
party do not support this action then Mr Di Natale
should make a comment to the media to distance
the party from this planned event.

Unless of course
he is not taking this "splinter group" seriously
and finds them irrelevant or the event as just a
beat up by the Daily Telegraph. A Storm in a Teacup
so to speak.

I guess we'll have to wait and see what happens next.
Posted by Foxy, Friday, 20 January 2017 9:36:14 AM
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Hi Foxy,

Don't be taken in by sensationalist material published in the Sydney 'Daily Tellthemcrap'. The only protested endorsed by the NSW Greens on 26th is the annual protest march from Redfern to the Town Hall, where it is usual for 2,000 to 3,000 people to take part. The organizers always stress before the march begins that it is a peaceful protest, and relations with the police have always been good during its progression.
Peace is paramount, its just a pity that the European has not displayed a whole lot of it towards his indigenous brothers and sisters over the past couple of hundred years.

No one that I know are planning to disrupt any festivities, including the tugboats doing ballet dancing on the harbour, is that a reenactment of something Phillip did? Heck! a local pub is advertising topless barmaids on Australia Day, how more patriotic can you get; meat pies, kangaroos, Holden cars, and boobs with ya beer! Seems this particular pub is extremely patriotic celebrating Australia Day every Thursday afternoon in the same manner. There is some other crazed Ocker on the telly extolling us to kill more sheep on Australia Day and offer them as sacrifice to the Booze God on the BBQ! I think it is to revive memories of Captain Cook or some such thing.

Lets hope there are no tourists in town on that day, we don't want them going home with the wrong idea about us Aussies.
Posted by Paul1405, Friday, 20 January 2017 11:01:46 AM
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So there's no public flogging of pollies who rort expenses ? No weevil ship's biscuits and foul water to drink? Just rum ?
Posted by nicknamenick, Friday, 20 January 2017 11:19:01 AM
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Dear Paul,

So glad that you've set the record straight.

I must say that when I first read about the so
called "protest," it just didn't add up.

Thanks again.
Posted by Foxy, Friday, 20 January 2017 11:19:38 AM
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Foxy,
- Or he quietly supports their actions...
Posted by Armchair Critic, Friday, 20 January 2017 12:42:07 PM
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The Telegraph is all lies according to Paul.

Is it not true then that Shoebridge and DiNatoli did not condemn the fringe Green groups proposed activities and their exhortation to burn our flag?
Posted by Is Mise, Friday, 20 January 2017 2:00:18 PM
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Yanks wear their flag on shirts even in the NY stock exchange to tell them which land they are in. The flag stands behind any speech by a democratically-elected freedom lover so the audience can tell which nation under God and all that it stands for. Do we really have to check which lot of gum trees and wattle we live in by confirming what flag is in sight?
Posted by nicknamenick, Friday, 20 January 2017 3:48:21 PM
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'The Daily Tellemcrap' in Sydney has been running a vendetta against The Greens for some years now, and this type of gutter press is nothing new.

Just the other day the headline read 'ECO-CRETIN' SABOTAGE THREATENS FAMILIES AT SYDNEY'S TOP BEACHES" pic of man eating shark included.

The story opened up with "GUTLESS greenies are threatening lives by destroying shark nets,,," followed by paragraphs of similar waffle. The only problem with the whole story is there are no suspects, been no arrests, no evidence is offered to support the diatribe by this particular Tellemcrap' cretin Miles Goodfly, who is a so called reporter.

AC, more likely the violent types from the far right white white supremacists, gun happy brigade, would actually commit some disgusting act to precipitate hate towards Indigenous people and their supporters, it has bee3n done before. What is going around in your heat right now?
Posted by Paul1405, Friday, 20 January 2017 5:07:44 PM
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Is it not true then that Shoebridge and DiNatoli did not condemn the fringe Green groups proposed activities and their exhortation to burn our flag?
Posted by Is Mise, Friday, 20 January 2017 5:16:05 PM
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Unlike Islam I am not sure if there is any such thing as a moderate Green. They are delusional, often love displaying their nakedness hating those who have given them the freedom to be such pigs. Apologies to any Greens deluded enough to think their party cares about the environment.
Posted by runner, Friday, 20 January 2017 5:19:18 PM
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<Left Renewal has deep links to two of the NSW Greens' most senior elected figures in veteran senator Lee Rhiannon and upper-house state MP David Shoebridge and has already made a mockery of Di Natale's insistence that the Greens are not a factionalised party.

Faction founder Tom Raue, a self-described anarchist, works as an adviser in Mr Shoebridge's office while fellow faction convenor Brigitte Holly begins a job in Senator Rhiannon's office this month.

Rhiannon and Shoebridge have been at pains to point out they are not members of Left Renewal but are equally keen to defend its right to exist.

In a co-written opinion piece in the Guardian last week, they took what has been interpreted inside the Greens as a clear shot at Di Natale, a former GP, and his consensus style of leadership.

"From forest defenders to middle-class doctors and student activists, the Greens party is a broad and accepting social movement that has always celebrated its diversity," they wrote.

The irony in their solidarity with those who want to tip the system on its head is that both politicians have done well out of the capitalist status quo.

Rhiannon and Shoebridge, a former industrial relations barrister, both own $2 million-plus homes in Sydney's eastern suburbs, according to parliamentary records and real estate data, and Rhiannon in particular has lucrative public pension pots from state and federal parliaments.

Still, the pair have aligned themselves with the "eastern bloc" or "watermelon" faction (green on the outside, red in the middle) that dismisses environmentally-minded, middle class Greens like Di Natale as "tree tories".>
http://tinyurl.com/greensplits
Posted by leoj, Friday, 20 January 2017 5:59:42 PM
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Paul!

Refute! Refute!!
Posted by Is Mise, Friday, 20 January 2017 7:40:17 PM
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Is Mise, refute what? A diatribe written by a wacko, is that what I have to refute, a load of speculative nonsense written by who knows what. Give me a name for the journalistic master, is it Leo J Wacko.

By the tone of some of the contributors to this thread, I hold fears that there are people in society who may well be planing who knows what as a disruption to peaceful protesters on Invasion Day January 26th.

I will be watching for those in the crowd with funny hats, plastic corks and all, wearing big floppy kangaroo ears, and the latest I seen today a big over sized green and yellow Aussie tie with the words "Hug Me" blazoned on it, and the mandatory Aussie flag thongs. You lads wont be out of place in that pub with the barmaids with the big boobs (such nakedness, runner is excused from attending).
Posted by Paul1405, Friday, 20 January 2017 11:05:21 PM
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BTW Is Mise. all you get from that stupid link is 'The Daily Tellemcrap' advertising subscription to their rubbish publication, you must be a subscriber. I would want paying to waste time reading their rubbish.

What about the reporter Miles Goodfly? Maybe you are he! Is it another one of your pseudonyms. You should read up on the old 'rubbish published by 'The Truth' it would be right up your alley. The Tellemcrap is in the same vain.

The writer Miles Goodfly also works on the web site 'Muck Rake'
Posted by Paul1405, Saturday, 21 January 2017 7:13:16 AM
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Paul,

The journalists name is Heath Aston, writing in the Brisbane Times, anyway answer the questions:
Is it not true that Shoebridge and DiNatoli did not condemn the fringe Green groups proposed activities and their exhortation to burn our flag?

Simple "Yes' or "No' will do.

You don't have to explain their action or lack thereof.
Posted by Is Mise, Saturday, 21 January 2017 12:40:10 PM
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Paul,

You really need to download "Spellcheck"
(it's free).

"The Tellemcrap is in the same vain."

I don't doubt that some of the people involved are vain, that's just human nature but an entity such as a newspaper cannot be vain.
Posted by Is Mise, Saturday, 21 January 2017 1:16:14 PM
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Is Mise, is this the same Heath Aston who it was claimed made scurrilous remarks about your very own Robert Borsak from the Shooters and Hooters Party, and was castigated by Borsak in the Legislative Council, Aston then demanded, and got, a 'Citizens Right of Reply'. so who was right Ballsup or Ashbum?

Look who else we find on 'MUCK RAKE' your source of all knowledge, Heath Ashbum, Is Mise is this another you?

I see a trend here, Is Mise = Miles Goodfly = Heath Ashbum - MUCK RAKE.

I refuse to be a party to MUCK RACKING.
Posted by Paul1405, Saturday, 21 January 2017 1:47:43 PM
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That's right is Mise, when your argument fails, as it always does with me, take to pedantic nitpicking.
Posted by Paul1405, Saturday, 21 January 2017 4:14:24 PM
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‘Right Wing Ratbag’ has deep links to two of the NSW Gunnies' most senior elected figures in veteran wacko Senator Tweedle Dum and up himself state MP Tweedle Even Dummer, and has already made a mockery of Letts Blastem’s insistence that the Gunnies are not a factionalised party.

Faction founder Tom Wombat, a self-described lunatic, works as a pencil sharpener in Tweedle Even Dummer’s office, while fellow faction nutter Straight Shoot’n Annie begins a job in Senator Tweedle Dum’s office this month as an elastic band.

The Tweedle’s have been at pains to point out they are not members of ‘Right Wing Ratbag’, we didn’t have the $2 membership fee, but are equally keen to defend its right to shoot first and ask no questions later.

By your intrepid investigative reporters Miles Goodfly and Heath Ashbum

IS MISE REFUTE! REFUTE!
Posted by Paul1405, Saturday, 21 January 2017 6:28:07 PM
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Paul,

Is it not true that Shoebridge and DiNatoli did not condemn the fringe Green groups proposed activities and their exhortation to burn our flag?

"That's right is Mise, when your argument fails, as it always does with me, take to pedantic nitpicking"

Not pedantic nit picking at all, Paul, but a heartfelt attempt to steer you onto the right track, I've asked you before to download "Spellcheck", don't be shy of using technology and it, Spellcheck, really is free.
Posted by Is Mise, Saturday, 21 January 2017 6:54:50 PM
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Is Mise we have moved on from whatever it was you were on about, and are now discussing that sinister clandestine organisation 'Right Wing Ratbag' and it close association with The Gunnies Party.
Is there any 'TRUTH' to the rumour that 'Right Wing Ratbag' intends to ignite a 10 ton mountain of made in China Aussie Day rubber thongs with the sacred flag imprinted, on Bennelong Point on the 26th and by directing the smoke across the harbour disrupt the culturally sensitive Tug Boat Ballet. All this with the intention to place the blame for this grossly Un-Australian act on to the peace loving Greenies, and Flower Children. Shame! Shame! Shame!
I am mortified to think you would condone this kind of barbarity!
Posted by Paul1405, Saturday, 21 January 2017 7:26:00 PM
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Is Mise, egg on face award to you for a pompous comment, like some overbearing public school master, showing yourself to be a smart ass.

vain secondary meaning: futile, useless, pointless, worthless, nugatory.

As in the idiom; "in the same vain" or vein. so it can be applied to a newspaper.

Get yourself what ever you like.
Posted by Paul1405, Saturday, 21 January 2017 8:55:43 PM
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Wow! Paul, you're coming on.

Now just answer the question:
Is it not true that Shoebridge and DiNatoli did not condemn the fringe Green group's proposed activities and their exhortation to burn our flag?
Posted by Is Mise, Saturday, 21 January 2017 9:15:22 PM
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No IS MISE, all true Greens, myself included, are peaceful people, unlike some of you, we have no propensity to act violently. There is no need for me to comment on a "story" which is a beat up.

About 10 years ago a woman joined our branch and at a time did propose we participate in some kind of disruptive protest, after debate, we informally expelled her from the branch. In other words we told he not to come back, go elsewhere.

As I said the only protest planned for January 26th in Sydney that I am aware of is the march from Redfern to the Town Hall, which has always been PEACEFUL.

As there has been no denial from the 'forums 'Usual Suspects' on the proposed thong burning as reported by Miles Goodfly and Heath Ashbum , one can only assume they support such action, if not intend to be active participants. IS MISE are you bringing the matches?
Posted by Paul1405, Sunday, 22 January 2017 6:25:10 AM
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Paul,

"Federal Greens leader Richard Di Natale has refused to be drawn on a splinter group’s call for supporters to disrupt Australia Day celebrations.
Left Renewal, a far-Left NSW Greens faction, wants people to take part in “seven days of resistance in the lead-up to Invasion Day”.
That includes stealing and burning the Australian flag, disrupting barbecues and other official events and spraying protest graffiti on walls and roads
Senator Di Natale’s office refused to comment yesterday."

Does he endorse the planned disruption or not?

Would be a simple thing for him to say that he doesn't support stealing, would it not?
https://thewest.com.au/news/australia/anarchists-call-for-aust-day-flag-burning-ng-b88360330z

http://www.huffingtonpost.com.au/2016/02/28/george-christensen-introduces-flag-burning-bill/

more links
https://www.google.com.au/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=greens%20call%20for%20flag%20burning
Posted by Is Mise, Sunday, 22 January 2017 9:32:29 AM
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"seven days of resistance in the lead-up to Invasion Day”. Considering we are into day 3, I have not observed much action on the protest front, you guys are slow off the mark.

BTW IS MISE, How is the thong collecting going? Need 10 tons by Thursday!

ALSO: Exactly what do YOU and any others who feel so grieved and put out by all this guff intend to do to celebrate 'Australia Day'? NOTHING
Posted by Paul1405, Sunday, 22 January 2017 9:58:13 AM
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The Left Renewal has certainly knocked in the head for all time di Nasty's claim that there are no factions in the Greens. Next time he makes such a ridiculous claim and tries to dissociate mainstream Green dogma from them, he will be greeted with roars laughter of as was Turnbull when he claimed the same for the Liberals. Now, while I do not deny the legitimacy of a party like the Greens, the thought of now having something even further to the Left is hair-raising, to say the least. For the sake of democracy and robust debate, the Greens must shun these lunatics of the Left Renewal.
Posted by ttbn, Sunday, 22 January 2017 10:18:52 AM
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The greatest leader of the frictions, sorry, factions within the Greens is the renowned Lee Rhiannon, the Queen White Ant.

How's it going in the corner, Paul, has the paint dried enough to get out?
Posted by Is Mise, Sunday, 22 January 2017 10:27:48 AM
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Surely the Greens understand the damage to Sydney that burning 1 ton of thongs will cause.

"Durable rubber sole.synthetic upper
Imported.
Weight: 7 oz , .2 kg."

"Tributyl phosphate is used as a plasticizer, solvent, flame retardant and as defoamer in textile industries . This compound was found in the midsole of shoes. . Tributyl phosphate is classified as a carcinogen, category 3 with the risk phrase R40 (limited evidence of a carcinogenic effect).. Furthermore, was the biocide 2-(thiocyanomethylthio)benzothiazole identified in the upper of shoes . This compound is classified as “very toxic to aquatic organisms” and to “may cause long-term adverse effects in the environment” (risk phrase R50/53) .
In addition to the hazardous substance already mentioned, diisobutyl phthalate, dibutyl phthalate and bis(2-etyhylhexyl)phthalate were identified as well. These three substances are included on the candidate list of authorization . Hence, these chemicals are considered to be substances of very high concern. The concentration of 2,6-bis(1,1-dimethylethyl)-4-methyl-phenol (CAS: 128-37- 09) was 5.8×102 µg/g material and 1.2×104 µg/g material in 2 samples, respectively. Tributyl phosphate was 1.7 µg/g
PAHs (polycyclic aromatic hydrocarbons), mostly as PM10 are a component of the heavy oils used to make rubber and accumulate in living tissue, and have been implicated in various cancers."
Posted by nicknamenick, Sunday, 22 January 2017 10:48:25 AM
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Get it right NNN, its 10 tons of thongs you need to burn to get noticed, that is what the intrepid reporters Miles Goodfly and Heath Ashbum uncovered secretly hidden on Bennelong Point by the ultra crazy org 'Right Wing Ratbag' incidentally IS MISE has never denied membership of, Miles and Heath reported in that quality publication 'Muck Rake' that 'Right Wing Ratbag' plans to set fire to their secret hoard of thongs on Aussie Day and by sending thick black smoke across Sydney Harbour interrupt the culturally sensitive Tug Boat Ballet, a 200 year old tradition which was first performed by Captain Phil and his fleet in 1788, They intend blaming it all on us peace loving greenies and flower children! Again a conspiracy IS MISE has failed to deny.

Have you been stealing Chinese State secrets, the formula for Aussie thongs? Earth shattering news NNN. And to think that our patriotic lads on here though their Aussie Day thongs were made from recycled Koala's.
Posted by Paul1405, Sunday, 22 January 2017 11:27:36 AM
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My, Paul, either you have long arms or you painted yourself into the corner where you keep your computer.
Posted by Is Mise, Sunday, 22 January 2017 12:59:09 PM
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Privileged, well-to-do and with guaranteed incomes and entitlements now and forever, courtesy of the public. The upper crust. They lead very different lives and have vastly different, privileged futures to those they rely on for support.

<...Rhiannon and Shoebridge, a former industrial relations barrister, both own $2 million-plus homes in Sydney's eastern suburbs, according to parliamentary records and real estate data, and Rhiannon in particular has lucrative public pension pots from state and federal parliaments.

Still, the pair have aligned themselves with the "eastern bloc" or "watermelon" faction (green on the outside, red in the middle) that dismisses environmentally-minded, middle class Greens like Di Natale as "tree tories".>

http://tinyurl.com/greensplits
Posted by leoj, Sunday, 22 January 2017 1:41:06 PM
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Leo, jealousy and envy are terrible sins, even for a parrot such as yourself, who cuts and pastes the same drivel time and time again. Be thankful for your flea infested bedsit wherever you reside. One day you too might own a $2 million mansion in the Eastern Burbs of Sydney. But at aged 95 you might have left you run a little late. Now take an extra large dose of Mylanta, I know how upsetting all this can be for you, and off to bed.

p/s Welcome to the forum. I love you already.
Posted by Paul1405, Sunday, 22 January 2017 7:53:04 PM
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They will only burn 1 ton before the Elvis helicopter does an Australia Day volunteer flag back-burn life-saver mercy dash for asthma sufferers. To conserve the strategic integrity of its environment, China has drawn up a system of 'Red Lines' for its Green energy policy reducing coal-boom and oil-powered thongs for the birth of a cancer-free nation.
Posted by nicknamenick, Sunday, 22 January 2017 9:19:29 PM
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Wealthy Greens such as Shoebridge and Lee Rhiannon who enjoy lifetime security through their taxpayer funded parliamentary benefits and entitlements and will never want for anything, are hypocrites to criticise the political system, the income earners and country that keep them in clover and safety.

Hypocrisy: Lee Rhiannon's ad hominem abusive attack on Australia's wealthiest woman, miner Gina Rinehart, could just as easily apply to Rhiannon herself, for example,

"Gina Rinehart’s utterances are often a reminder that wealth too often goes hand in hand with arrogance and greed" and,

"Ms Rinehart’s comments are another example of the crude self interest that has become her hallmark. She is out of touch with the life of most Australians who are working to pay off their mortgage, manage health costs and ensure their children are happy and secure"

However, Rinehart's future depends on market forces and her own initiative, unlike wealthy Greens politicians who ride on the back of the taxpayer.

To be blunt, what would wealthy Greens, Lee Rhiannon especially, with $millions in property and not one but two gold cards courtesy of the taxpayer know about lower income earners and people on fixed incomes and pensions?

Many might believe that Greens Lee Rhiannon and Shoebridge, who is hanging from her coat tail and slavishly copying her political formula, are simply out for themselves and on a power trip.
Posted by leoj, Monday, 23 January 2017 10:54:05 AM
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Paul,

In your "humourous" posts re the Shooters's, Fishers' and Farmers' party MsP you have so far neglected to tell us about their Parliamentary Entitlement rorts.

Is this because you can't find a reference to them?
Is it because they haven't cheated the taxpayer or is it just because they are honest men?

Tell you what, you list the dishonest thieving from the taxpayer that SF&F MsP have done and I'll put up a few that the Greens are guilty of.

Has Sarah Hanson-Young paid back the $18,000 + that she over spent on the last election?
Posted by Is Mise, Monday, 23 January 2017 7:40:37 PM
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Hi Is Mise,

So you want to play a game of tit for tat do you? When it comes to the Shooters and Hooters Party I would much prefer to concentrate on their advocacy for environmental destruction, than some petty cash grab they may be making. Since you equate everything in dollar terms, if given their way what these environmental wreckers would cost society is millions in damage, simply to satisfy some perverse pleasures of theirs, and yours!
Posted by Paul1405, Tuesday, 24 January 2017 4:06:13 AM
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Income from sugar was about $2 billion. "The total Australia-wide value-added economic contribution generated in the Barrier Reef
catchment in 2012 was $5.7 billion with employment (as measured in full-time equivalent workers) of just below 69,000 ."
Phosphorus in sugar cane fertiliser is contributing to killing the larger industry. Sugar causes as much damage as bad-fitting thongs and thong smoke.
Posted by nicknamenick, Tuesday, 24 January 2017 8:05:00 AM
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NNN, not to mention type 2 diabetes brought on by sugar and other diseases resulting from its over use in society.
Posted by Paul1405, Tuesday, 24 January 2017 9:31:41 AM
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You can't play tit-for-tat, Paul, because you well know that no one can get anything on the honest SF&F Party MsP.

Whereas there is a litany of lies told and non ethical dips into the public purse by the Greens' members, not all Greens members are dodgy of course, but there are enough.

Put up or shut up.
Posted by Is Mise, Tuesday, 24 January 2017 10:05:16 AM
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When prison commandant Hu Jintao of Trump Billionaire party of workers and auto-unions seized the Canberra Chamber of Peoples' Hot-Air Expenses , who didn't kow tow? Who? Bob Brown that's who.
Posted by nicknamenick, Tuesday, 24 January 2017 12:17:02 PM
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Dear Is Mise,

As I said, I am not going to engage in your tit for tat exercise, regarding expenses claimed by Greens MP's and those claimed by your mob, The Shooters and Hooters Party. Given the fact in NSW, where there has been nothing recently regarding. "snouts in the trough" state wise, and The Shooters and Hooters only has micro representation at best. Federally your party is nonexistent, and the recently exposed wroughting of the system, seems to be exclusively a Liberal disease. There is not much point in undertaking your exercise. Unless of course your great white hunter, Bob Ballsup, claimed a million dollars off the NSW taxpayer for all those expeditions into darkest Africa to bag himself a heap of endangered elephants.
Posted by Paul1405, Wednesday, 25 January 2017 6:49:22 AM
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Shooter Hooter party animals.
My dad had a stud ram and told professional kangaroo shooters to butcher a sheep but not the ram. Guess what they threw on the barbie.. about $191.50 a kg.
Posted by nicknamenick, Wednesday, 25 January 2017 9:47:46 AM
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NNN, I know what you mean about these irresponsible shooters and hooters. I had a cow cocky uncle years back, he had to stop these types from entering his property, Yes they would run amok, muddying water holes, leaving gates open, driving through fences, shooting insulators off poles, leaving rubbish where they camped, even shot some of his sheep. These shooters and hooters certainly can be an irresponsible lot! Is Mise will back me up on this.
Posted by Paul1405, Wednesday, 25 January 2017 11:02:32 AM
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nicknamenick,

Unlikely. What farmer would give anyone a free hand to select and cull an animal from a mob, especially from breeding stock? The BS meter is swinging well off the dial.

However, Paul1405, the poster who followed you easily out-bulldusts your 'dad' and by a country 1.60934km, metres thick, of said BS.
Posted by leoj, Wednesday, 25 January 2017 11:50:13 AM
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So, Paul, you cannot point to one dishonest act by the SF&F Party,
bad luck; it must be a change to come up against honest politicians, a great change being as you claim friendship with Shoebridge, a proven liar.
Posted by Is Mise, Wednesday, 25 January 2017 12:50:10 PM
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leoj
Agreed but he was no farmer , but an alcoholic navy man who bought 2 Haddon Rig rams and no ewes. He made us drive his armoured car into trees to knock them down so the kangaroo shooters knew it was better sense to take a ram which is a beggar to shear.
Posted by nicknamenick, Wednesday, 25 January 2017 3:16:18 PM
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dunno about ram shearing in 1960 but now:
Flock sheep (wethers, ewes and lambs) by machine $2.87.
Rams (other than special stud rams) and ram stags $5.74.
Special studs as agreed
Posted by nicknamenick, Wednesday, 25 January 2017 3:23:03 PM
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Is Mise, drive along most country roads, look at those black and yellow signs, the ones that display an image of a native animal, such as a kangaroo, with the words NEXT and say 10Km or similar. How often I see those signs blasted full of holes, obviously the work of your gunnie mates. How dangerous, how irresponsible, as an innocent motorist could be an innocent victim of these lunatics, I am sure you have never taken part in that type of irresponsible behavior.
Posted by Paul1405, Wednesday, 25 January 2017 5:51:01 PM
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leoj
Oi here's me bruvver :

"That is correct. I remember Dad telling the shooters (from Sydney) that they must not go into Tin Creek as there were sheep in that paddock including the rams. They could shoot a sheep in Blacks Camp paddock but only 1. However, when Dad met up with them at the middle yards ( I remember being with Dad) the shooters showed Dads the head of the Haddon Rig ram.

Dad was not impressed.

Cheers

Brother Peter"
Posted by nicknamenick, Wednesday, 25 January 2017 7:26:42 PM
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Okay Is Mise I want to play your silly little game of tit for tat.

My first shot is: Fat Bob Blast'm from the Gunnies Party claimed $47,295.42 for meals from the public purse for his taxpayer funded fact finding Big Game Hunting Expedition to darkest Africa where he bagged himself eight elephants. The fact is Fat Bob actually dinned on his elephant kills and didn't eat any of the local fair, such as fried Bongo Grub the national dish of Bunglewongleland. Fat Bob explained he was watching his weight. So far in five years all Fat Bob has repaid is the 42 cents. When questioned Fat Bob said he plans to make another repayment of 42 cents in 2020, and will do so every five years until the debt is repaid in full! Good on Fat Bob for being so magnanimous!
Posted by Paul1405, Thursday, 26 January 2017 6:01:28 AM
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Paul,

That's an interesting post, care to give a reference?

I haven't seen one of the animal signs shot around here but the large road signs are full of dents, but no holes, which is strange if they were shot.

What has happened is that someone, for some strange reason, hit the signs with a ball pein hammer thus giving the impression that they have been shot.
How do we know this?
Simple, the pein has a nick in it and some of the signs have a mark in each of the dings corresponding to a nick in the pein.
Posted by Is Mise, Thursday, 26 January 2017 10:01:50 AM
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Is Mise, that sensational scoop was the resourceful work of our intrepid investigative reporters Miles Goodfly and Heath Ashbum, you are familiar with the work of Miles and heath, are you not, as published in that reliable tabloid 'The Muck Rake Daily', Unfortunately the website of 'The Muck Rake Daily' went down this morning, when some masked varmints took to it with ball-pein hammers! son unfortunaly no link at this time, just take my word for it, I always tell the truth and never make up stories.

The story about my Uncle up at Cassilis, pop about 300, (do a Google and it brings up the old pub had a few beers there years ago) on his property is true.
Posted by Paul1405, Thursday, 26 January 2017 10:52:39 AM
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Is Mise, another true story, I have a story for every occasion, some years back after the big hail storm in Sydney a bloke I know thought he would do some "hail damage" to his car with a ball-pein hammer. The dick got nothing when the insurance mob worked out all the dints were done with the same hail stone. Dick end up with no dosh and a worthless car.
Posted by Paul1405, Thursday, 26 January 2017 11:04:34 AM
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Thanks , the opinions that the man was unreal are good to hear.
Posted by nicknamenick, Thursday, 26 January 2017 11:27:37 AM
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Paul,

What happened at the "peaceful" protest?

http://www.news.com.au/national/nsw-act/news/violence-at-invasion-day-protest-in-sydney/news-story/5501ab73659c57e2a2936cf24eaac591
Posted by Is Mise, Friday, 27 January 2017 10:34:52 AM
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Is Mise asks; What happened at the "peaceful" protest?

The answer; Thousands of people protested peacefully.

Still relying on "news" from 'NoNews Ltd', I see.
Posted by Paul1405, Friday, 27 January 2017 7:33:22 PM
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And some police put the boot into some hippies for burning a flag (definitely not a crime if there isn't a total fire ban. I checked).

Because the police deserve to have their fun on Australia Day too, and what's more fun than beating up a defenceless hippy?

I've never tried it, but I reckon it would be better than sex, drugs, and rock & roll. I like to imagine that heads of hippies make a hollow ringing noise when struck.
Posted by Toni Lavis, Friday, 27 January 2017 9:05:10 PM
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Toni,

The offence apparently was lighting a fire so as to endanger others.

Paul,

How many thousands marched?
Posted by Is Mise, Friday, 27 January 2017 9:34:32 PM
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//The offence apparently was lighting a fire so as to endanger others.//

The law is a funny beast. I never knew that the legal definition of 'others' included 'a cheap chinese knock-off of an Aussie flag'. Ya learn something new every day, I swear.
Posted by Toni Lavis, Friday, 27 January 2017 9:40:58 PM
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It could have been a protest about anything and there would be the same activists.

I feel sorry for the police having to waste their time while being constantly harassed and abused by the welfare elite.

Nothing but contempt for selfish demonstrators who endanger small children by leading them into an environment where fires could be lit and crowd trampling and violence are likely.
Posted by leoj, Friday, 27 January 2017 10:14:51 PM
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Is Mise about 2,000 to 3,000, a few more than last year. I didn't see the "incident" as reported but I did note than on the film of the whole affair it was an Aboriginal man who extinguished the blazing inferno with his feet (shoes on). In that situation I don't condone the lighting of fires, be it flags or grannies tablecloth. Coppers were good.

We left at Railway Square, had a big Island Day At Yarra Bay in the avo, fires (BBQ's) everywhere, about 1,000 people. Great display of island dancing by the teen's, safe swimming for the kids, plenty of open space to play volleyball and cricket. What do Aussie's do on Australia Day?
Only about 6-8 coppers in their mini bus all day. How Un-Australian is this, the council rangers turned up, and were going to book people for parking on the grass (the carpark's were chockers). The coppers and a couple of Island elders told them it wasn't a good idea. Very Australian of them.
Posted by Paul1405, Saturday, 28 January 2017 6:05:16 AM
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'Malicious' SA arsonist gets 12 years jail ... "Lighting fires at the height of the bushfire season clearly exposed a lot of people to danger.".
a flag means all Australia which is a big bushfire and Britain as well.
Posted by nicknamenick, Saturday, 28 January 2017 7:35:05 AM
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