The minute a person holds a gun to another's head, they should be shot at the first chance, no exceptions.
could you say that again? not sure how you mean it

Hi there ALBIE of beautiful 'ol Darwin...

I realise there are many problems in all police forces, but by and large most working coppers, whether GD's or detectives do their best to interdict crime in a our communities and sometimes they simply fail, after all they're human too.

You're right when you say the ADF are suffering the same or similar problems as the coppers. The Chief of the ADF who was (amazingly) awarded the 'Australian of the Year' was so proud of the fact that, he'd stamped out all gender discrimination within the ADF ? Well that's very nice for him I'm sure. And gender equality is important, without doubt.

But what about all the male (am I permitted to mention the word 'male'?), just in case I'll rephrase that OK; what about the majority of those in the ADF, don't they have just as important needs? New equipment, better logistic management, superior body armour etc, and a thousand and one other equally important matters that need the Chief of the ADF's immediate attention !

I'm only guessing ALBIE, are you by chance a member of one of the Services up there in Darwin ? Take care ol' mate.

I seem to recall from news reporting at the time that the unhinged perp was demanding to speak to the Prime Minister but Abbott declined to come to the phone. Too important? How would THAT knockback have affected the perp and made things easier for the hostages and the police?

Hi there CHRISGAFF100...

Where have you been mate, I've missed your steadying hand, and you're right I should let the likes of NICKNAMENICK go through to the keeper.

But you know as well as I, when people throw the 'proverbial' at coppers, especially those who were never there, and have never worn blue, it does get up one's nose, when some pretender denigrates the superb reputations of some bloody good coppers. Every copper who took part in the Lindt Cafe operation, did his or her best, I believe !

Speaking of august leaders Chris, you must have been well senior to me, serving under Col DELANEY ? I joined after my Army service, under Wally MELLISH'S mate, the inimitable N.T.W. ALLAN (aka Norman the foreman). I can't argue with you concerning 'evidence of bad character' with many of our mighty leaders, though old Cecil Roy ABBOTT wasn't too bad, treated us in the old CIB really well.

That was pretty mean spirited I thought, there had been many weeks of careful planning and preparation that went into the Long Tan tribute, and to dash their hopes, Veterans from 'both sides' and their families at the 11th hour, well what do you expect from a Communist Government, notwithstanding we give 'em squillions in foreign aid !

Good to speak with you again Chris, stay in touch.

EmperorJulian,

Too much Hollywood.

nicknamenick, Its simply another way of saying ZERO TOLLERENCE.