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Lindt Siege

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o sung wu,

I think that you missed my point, mate.
The Armalite was doctored the day after Wally surrendered.
The second round in the magazine was dented/bent so that it wouldn't feed and thus cause the desired stoppage.

Moorebank Area Sargents' Mess was a 'watering hole' for the local police and a couple of them (ex-Korea) told us that Wally was firing the Armalite in their direction the night of the day that Allen gave it to him; both were of the opinion that the Commissioner should have been charged with numerous offences.
Posted by Is Mise, Wednesday, 24 August 2016 9:22:59 PM
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Hi (again) IS MISE...

Indeed I did miss your point, badly it would seem ! I wasn't aware of that ? You can appreciate IS MISE the coppers are not unlike the Army, the whole joint can be a rumour mill, and just after the whole business, we all knew that ALLAN had a serious amount of egg on his face, but the specifics of which, were not known by the rank and file, as I indicated more rumour than fact I'm afraid.

Could you imagine had MELLISH actually fired at some poor bastard, and killed them, the headline would read '...NSW Police Commissioner, charged as an accessory to murder...' ! Wow, they'd sell a few papers I reckon ? All joking aside, the whole incident was shockingly handled when you think about it. And to hand over a functioning, high velocity rifle, to a convicted felon - the stuff of a horror movie I reckon.
Posted by o sung wu, Wednesday, 24 August 2016 9:48:38 PM
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Butch, Oh Sung Wu.

1957 vs. 2017.

Scenario 1:
Robbie, a year 5/6 won't sit still in class and is disrupting other students.

1957-Robbie is sent to off to the school office and is given ‘6 of the best’ by the Principal. Returns to class, sits still and does not disrupt class again.

2017-Robbie is given huge doses of Ritalin. Becomes a zombie. Tested for ADHD, undergoes therapy and the school gets extra money from state government because Robbie has a “disability”.

A special rubber lined “quiet room” is installed at the school and kids who need basic supplies are denied because of the cost of this.

Scenario 2:
Billy breaks a window on his neighbour's car and his Dad gives him a whipping with his belt.

1957-Billy is more careful next time, grows up normal, goes to college, and becomes a successful businessman.

2017-Billy's dad is arrested for child abuse. Billy is removed to foster care and joins a gang. The government psychologist, a 20 yr old post graduate, tells Billy's sister that she remembers being abused at age 8, so their dad gets hauled off to prison. Billy's mom has affair with the psychologist who ‘outs’ 6 months later, declaring he is a bi-sexual Vegan Harp Seal.

Scenario 3:
Faisal fails year 10 English.

1957-Faisal’s mum & dad work their holidays to get him extra tuition over the school break. He repeats year 10 and graduates 3 years later as Dux of the high school. 4 years later he enters his articles of clerkship as a solicitor with a prestigious Sydney law firm.

2017-Faisal's cause is taken up by an ethnic rights group. Newspaper articles appear nationally explaining that teaching English as a requirement for graduation is racist.

Rights group files a class action lawsuit against state school system and Faisal's English teacher. English is banned from school’s core curriculum. His English teacher never teaches again.

Faisal is given a school leaving certificate anyway & gives up studies altogether. Ends up in a factory in Auburn sweeping floors for a living, because he cannot speak English.
Posted by Albie Manton in Darwin, Thursday, 25 August 2016 12:40:25 PM
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o sung wu,
Mate I thought his name was Irwin (Captain, Salvation Army) gay as a rabbit and loved by all the
'Blackhats' from the 'gangsters' to the gongsters'. Always had a cigarette for the cells under Central and a good word for the crims in Court.
Wally used him like he did with anyone he came in contact with.
Me, I'd have sniped him with the 223 Remington's they had back then.
No I never made "the square"
You realise that Morey and Rogerson were the leads in the Glenfield fiasco and Roger gets "the lot" today.
Posted by chrisgaff100, Thursday, 25 August 2016 1:51:30 PM
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BUTCH, please stop it ! You're making me very depressed with your factual precis of what's now happening in this unabridged 'over regulated' Country of ours ! We're absolutely suffocating in this mire of petty regulation, it's like we're all tiptoeing through a never-ending minefield of this damned political correctness !

Whatever happened to the great Nation we once were, where we could have a cold one after work, play a game of social cricket on a hot sunny day at the local oval, or kick a footy around in a game of 'touch' during winter months ? Say what we thought, to friends and family without the mortal fear of being overheard and sued. Settle a 'stink' with a work colleague (despite his or your rank)by having a blue in the car park, after your shift ? Indeed Butch, that's the Australia I love, and would do anything for. Mate I'm buggered if I know !
Posted by o sung wu, Thursday, 25 August 2016 2:14:26 PM
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I think that we can be confident that the 'ordinary' cop on the scene knows what he should do, and would like to do it. But, he does not know, from one minute to the next, what his highly politicised superiors want him to do. Police forces don't yoke themselves with the PC BS of the day; politicians do it to them, via the top brass, who have an eye out for good jobs when they retire. It is, therefore, naive to believe that our police forces are not driven by political requirements. It is not the rank and file police who, in the main, we should be grateful to for their willingness to do a dangerous job on our behalf; no, the rot is at the top.
Posted by ttbn, Thursday, 25 August 2016 3:53:35 PM
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