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Lindt Siege

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O Sung Wu
How are you? ABC made these comments, is that news to you?

: An inquest today heard that police negotiators on the night of the Sydney Lindt cafe siege had to work from a cramped city office nearby because their specially fitted, federally funded negotiation truck was out of service.

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, police established a temporary base 75 metres away at the NSW Leagues Club..
: We got the phone system sorted out, showed them how to use it.

: The telephone line was used as direct contact to the gunman for negotiating.

: Police negotiators were given the gaming manager's office on level one.

.They would rather have been working from their purpose built negotiation truck.

Reg explained that the truck was damaged in 2011 and was still off the road.

The specially built vehicle was eventually sold.

He's involved in getting a replacement.

Reg recalled what the original truck was like to work in.
BRENDAN TREMBATH: Reg noted that their temporary office in the football club was cramped and the phone system inadequate.

Hostages would call in on the gaming manager's phone number.

But if a negotiator happened to be on the phone, the call would be diverted elsewhere in the club.

And Reg explained that the negotiators had only one mobile phone for the team. ...He suggested to Reg that they could have used the mobile to make outgoing calls, leaving the landline free for calls from the hostages.

REG: It makes sense, yes.

BRENDAN TREMBATH: A police log showed that three calls from a hostage were not answered at 12:30am, 12:32am and 12:37am.

Calls which did get through were recorded on a digital recorder.

But for some reason 12 batches of hostage phone calls were lost.

Reg agreed that either the recorder was not switched on or the calls were accidentally recorded over.

During the 17 hour siege, the negotiators had no direct contact with the gunman Man Monis who made the hostages pass on his demands.
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Nicknamenick led off to cells..
Posted by nicknamenick, Monday, 22 August 2016 12:44:40 PM
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o sung wu,
Steady on ole mate, you'll finish up having a heart attack and that will be the end of rational comment on this site.
I was forced out of the job by 'intelligentsia' also. Sure I choose to collect my 'package' and walk be for I was pushed but it was all down to the rise of academia in the police force and the 'bright lights' that came with it.
Recently the most decorated and effective detective in the Qld Crime Squads was forced to retire because new rules implemented by the 'enlightened' brass said he must retire at age 70.
Remember that the governments are pushing for people to work beyond retirement age.
Forget about "nicknamenick" He'll be ok when he gets back on his meds.
The Lindt Siege was a disaster right from the start.
History shows that military specialist teams facilitate the best outcomes and it is time that the police realized that whilst they may think they are the elite of the elite they bloody well are not.
These soldiers are battle trained, case hardened and disciplined to the nth degree.
These police puppets pose more of a threat to society and is good for the overall picture of policing. They uniform themselves like Idi Armin and the ponce around like actors on a stage.
Look at that policewoman from NSW whom they made the Police Commissioner in Victoria. What a mess.
By the way X Rays have reveled what appears to be 7 bullets or fragments in the body of the woman killed in the siege.
Worked under Delaney,Allen, Hanson and Wood. All show ponies. All politically self centered and all corrupt to the core along with their premiers.
The only decent man was John Avery followed by Peter Ryan.
Promotion by succession is a failure.
Pissed off about the Long Tan celebrations in Vietnam but the it is their country and the can call it the way they see it though I can't help feeling that there some generals in the Vietnamese govern ment with long memories.
Take care mate
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Posted by chrisgaff100, Monday, 22 August 2016 12:58:46 PM
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The Coroner and hopefully one day an independent comprehensive operational audit of the department are the two most likely ways that the politicians and police executive might (might being the operative word) be held to account. An audit is just wishful thinking for police officers and for the public. So the Coroner is it.

In the interim, it is worth remembering the delegated powers and the handsome salaries and benefits enjoyed by the senior executive and political knobs concerned. Of course, none of them would ever regard themselves personally as being among the always overpaid, politically-correct sycophants in public administration.

It is not as though ALL politicians and police executive were unaware of the mounting terrorist threat and the need for state-of-the-art communications, protocols and training.
Posted by onthebeach, Monday, 22 August 2016 1:33:04 PM
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"The only decent man was John Avery followed by Peter Ryan"

Fair comment.

Peter Ryan was a highly skilled (which includes the practical application of his learning), courageous public servant (meant in the thankful public's and text book understanding of the term, ie the diametrical opposite to the expectations of leftist 'Progressives'), who was shafted by sinister interests in the police force and beyond.

If there ever was a good reason for a Royal Commission...
Posted by onthebeach, Monday, 22 August 2016 1:49:49 PM
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nicknamenick" He'll be ok when he gets back on his meds.
how many of yous are police residents of nursing homes for the politically demented? show of hands please.
my posts were from coroner courts , straight facts which are obvious to all law-abiding perpetrators. wot's the problem?
Posted by nicknamenick, Monday, 22 August 2016 1:59:32 PM
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Whether it be a maccas drive through, a local hardware store, or a government department, incompetent workers are everywhere you turn today, many of which are protected under absurd Ir laws, making them literally untouchable, so we had best get used to it I'm afraid. I'm afraid incompetence is the new norm.

Ad to this the politically correct world of 'gee, I must make sure I don't step on somone's dick' attitude, and you have the world we live in today.

The minute a person holds a gun to another's head, they should be shot at the first chance, no exceptions.

The minute you remove the rights of another, you forego your own rights.
Posted by rehctub, Monday, 22 August 2016 2:14:37 PM
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