'Because these guards/carers are gross, abusive bullies who would be scared to try it on someone of their own size, and should be locked up themselves with much larger guards in attendance who believe in physical punishments'

'People like runner on this site resort to having a personal attack against my profession in order to feel big about themselves and their disgusting views.'

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At least the kids in these sorts of facilities have more of a chance at life than the poor kids abused by religious clergy in church-run institutions in the recent past.

says it all Susie,. Unable to accept any truth but dish out your garbage.

btw their have been a number of nurses charges with abuse of elders. Old people can be trying but not nearly to the extent that young criminals are. What is your problem. You can slur guards who have an extremely difficult job and ignore the short failings of your own profression. I think your views are disgusting.

btw it would be sad to see Poirot, Susie and Foxy live although their views are very predictable on every issue. Just watch abc or read any other leftie and you will know their response. Foxy certainly rarely abuses people however Poirot's sarcacism and Susie's abuse is second to none.

I heard an interesting theory last night.

Apparently the ABC has been in possession of some of the footage of abuse and reports for four years or more, and that the timing of the release of this information is very conveniently just before the NT elections.

Is the ABC pulling another stunt like Triggs to promote Labor's interests?

SM,

The NT govt was aware of all the material shown of Four Corners.

Ellen Fanning asked Bath: "Was there any additional footage presented on 4 Corners last night that NT officials and NT bureaucrats didn't know about?

Bath: "As far as I know, no."

Bath continued: "Most of the material that you saw last night on Four Corners was available to the govt."

The govt legislated to make it legal.

"Nigel Scullion says his 'interest not piqued' before seeing youth detention footage"

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-07-26/scullions-interest-not-piqued-before-youth-detention-abuse-video/7662466

Here's what the producer of the show, Caro Meldrum-Hanna tweeted.

"Scullion's office asked me for an advanced copy of the #4Corners program yesterday. He went out to dinner last night instead of watching?"

"I spoke to Scullion's office yesterday lunchtime. They knew about the story & STILL didn't watch. What's going on?"

"Minister Scullion says he didn't watch #4Corners until @TurnbullMalcolm alerted him? I spoke with his office at around 1pm yesterday."

So let's just get over the spiel that this was all under the radar. It's been common knowledge for yonks that the NT govt was behaving like this...as usual, it's only national exposure through video and photos that breaks the "story".

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runner,

I do occasionally employ sarcasm (although not as often as I could), but if you really want to see a sarc exponent at the top of his game, you shouldn't go past Loudmouth whose posts are usually bout 80% sarc content.

I tend to take you on when you pull of one off your run-by slaggings accusing whomever you're addressing as a "hater" or someone who espouses "hatred" for whichever tenet of society is your choice for the occasion.

You don't like that.

Another point, SM,

If the ABC had this footage, it could have screened it prior to the federal election.

In fact, one would have to ask why it didn't?

All you ABC bashers seem to have missed that former Murdoch lady Michelle Guthrie has been installed as head of the ABC, has already cancelled Fact Check (because a fact checking dept would impede the LNP's ability to say any old guff as fact) - and booted online Drum.

Just as they've installed a mate to decimate the CSIRO - much easier to nobble these organisations from within, what!

SM said; "I heard an interesting theory last night" maybe you were channeling Adam Giles at the time.did he come to you in a dream or did you rely on your tried and trusted, the good old Ouija board. Shadow, were those voices in your head? We now have the ABC conspiring to boost the chances of Labor in next months NT election. I think your mob, the CLP, have done an excellent job of boosting Labor's chances on their own.

Adam Giles, moved to limit the political damage by sacking Corrections Minister John Elferink, and appointing himself as Corrections Minister. Giles is the bloke who wanted to be in charge of corrections so he could put prisoners into a big concrete holes.

""I would build a big concrete hole and put all the bad criminals in there: ‘Right, you are in the hole, you are not coming out. Start learning about it. Get in the hole’: Adam Giles, NT Parliament, October 20, 2010."

Giles should resign, and the incompetent NT Country Liberal Government sacked! In no way should the NT Country Liberal Party have any say as to the 'terms of reference' for the Royal Commission.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-07-26/nt-juvenile-justice-royal-commission-what-we-dont-know/7660430