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USA: Cops killing Blacks - Raciest Homicide or Justified ?
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Posted by Bazz, Monday, 11 July 2016 11:59:40 AM
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Morning to you ONTHEBEACH...
As usual you're miles above my simple head with all the American political machinations, involving that shadowy figure Geo. SOROS who seems able to manipulate the economies of many US States even small Nations ! There's no doubt whatsoever, the main Firearm manufacturers in the United States, are closely hand in glove, with the NRA. That in itself has little to do with white cops shooting black crooks, only perhaps signifying the ready availability of guns in America, in the first instance? I don't know the answer, but most of these shootings do occur in City areas that have high concentrations of, socio-economically deprived African Americans. Given that many Departments employ a fair proportion of black police, would it not be better strategically, to deploy more black police to those public housing projects that are predominately black ? Or would the City Fathers consider that a raciest tactic ? Who cares if it might save lives ? So they issue hard 'body armour inserts', but that will not stop a groin or head shot, so you can forget about 'Kevlar' under your singlet, on a hot humid day or night, designed only to halt pistol ordnance ? What an intractable mess law enforcement's in, in the United States. Posted by o sung wu, Monday, 11 July 2016 12:28:28 PM
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Hey Steele Redux,
You got me thinking, and maybe I have kind of contradicted myself. "The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants" Thomas Jefferson. I think the white demographic are probably concerned with overreach of federal government powers and states rights in a greater sense whereas the black demographic are more concerned with racism and police brutality at the local level. So I think the white demographic would me more likely to peacefully protest on the whitehouse lawn, in making their stand whereas blacks are more likely to take it to local police. I think the blacks oppression meter would be a lot higher, enraged and prone to act more irrationally. The whites position against the federal government is that they would try to get police and military on their side whereas the blacks position is gunning for the cops. I still don't think I answered your argument very well sorry, but you definitely got me thinking. Kudos. I don't think it will help the blacks cause by shooting police. Maybe Soros wants to start a race war, laying the groundwork to postpone the election. If for example Hillary Clinton was elected President, then I would support US citizens right to overthrow a tyrannical government based on the fact the Hillary has committed crimes that meant she is not legally allowed to run for President (for espionage) and the US people don't have to obey an illegitimate government. How they would go about removing her I'm not sure. I don't want their to be violence on the streets though, I do want everyone to go home safely. I wish America could get its act together and act like the moral nation it should be, but that won't happen. I'd support the Blacks cause if the message was "All Lives Matter" but they've made it hateful and divisive. Onthebeach, Did you know Soros was actually behind the ICJC who released the Panama Papers? http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-panama-papers-and-regime-change-who-is-behind-the-international-consortium-of-investigative-journalists-icij/5519178 Posted by Armchair Critic, Monday, 11 July 2016 1:01:24 PM
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o sung wu,
It has been my experience over the years that while the left excel at stirring the pot and the tabloid media (and Hollywood) add to fog, law enforcement in the US is tightly controlled, highly transparent and subject to all manner of review and appeal mechanisms. I don't care to reckon up the number of sensationalist exposés, the gasp, shock, horror, of tabloid media and scummy politicians that have later been proved to be muck-raking to create hysteria for political purposes and without any basis in fact. There is a fortune and power in speculative gossip. It is a moneymaking business. It is also the preserve of ratbag conspiracy artists. The leftists routinely slag and slam the police as agents of government. But police serve the community of which they and their loved ones are part. The police in the US are trying to handle social problems that are beyond their areas of expertise and exasperating. Not so frustrating for officers to do the wrong thing. Their sense of community service and their training usually kicks in when things go pear-shaped. However, where there is ever any slightest evidence of wrongdoing by police it is followed to the bitter end by investigators who do NOT as the leftists claim allow excuses or cover things up. The exact reverse if true - they are zealous, even overzealous and rigorous. However the left don't bother with evidence, dealing in acquisition, rumor-mongering and hysteria. The US is a democracy. While democracy has its limitations, there is NO better system of government. Also, Americans jealously guard and fight for their freedom of speech and rightly oppose incursions by the State into private lives. It really is high time that the leftists owned up to the very obvious negative consequences of their social engineering. The other side too, for their 'Forget it and it will all go away'. Bothe sides want it easy and refuse to grasp the thorny nettle of underlying social problems. Posted by onthebeach, Monday, 11 July 2016 1:04:38 PM
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"...But police serve the community of which they and their loved ones are part."
They do...and what we're seeing is a break down of sorts. Just how many stories are we to read of black people being summarily executed for broken tail lights, etc. There was a story a while back about a black man who had been shoved handcuffed and unsecured into the back of a police van - which was then driven wildly around the streets until he was battered to death...broken neck. I believe. When the population go "Erm..."How come this is happening?" we see police routinely clad in full militarised battle dress - someone from the US commented he was never decked out so much even in battle as the police in the pictures in this article: http://www.smh.com.au/world/remarkable-photo-of-woman-facing-riot-police-that-may-define-black-lives-matter-20160711-gq2ulr.html The US has a problem. Posted by Poirot, Monday, 11 July 2016 1:23:19 PM
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Found that quote on twitter regarding the militarisation of police in the US.
From Brandon Friedman - Former Dep.Assistant Secretary for Public Affairs: "I never wore so much armor in combat. This is their own community." Their own community.... Another indication of the seriousness of the situation: "Three countries urge caution traveling to U.S. amid protests, violence" http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-police-travel-idUSKCN0ZQ0RM?utm_campaign=trueAnthem:+Trending+Content&utm_content=5782bf8504d30102204bd23b&utm_medium=trueAnthem&utm_source=twitter "Three countries have warned their citizens to stay on guard when visiting U.S. cities rocked by sometimes violent protests that erupted after a string of police shootings of black Americans. The United States regularly issues travel warnings urging Americans to either avoid or exercise caution in countries marred by violence or political instability. Now America is the focus of concern by foreign governments in the Middle East and Caribbean as protesters marched in U.S. cities throughout the weekend after police killed black men in Louisiana and Minnesota." "The U.S. embassy of Bahrain, a tiny Middle Eastern island nation, on Saturday urged citizens via twitter to "be cautious of protests or crowded areas occurring around the U.S." Bahamas, a Caribbean nation where most people identify as being of African heritage, on Friday warned its people to be careful when visiting U.S. cities rocked by "shootings of young black males by police officers." "In particular young males are asked to exercise extreme caution in affected cities in their interactions with the police. Do not be confrontational and cooperate," Bahamas foreign ministry said in a travel advisory. The United Arab Emirates urged its students and other citizens in the United States to also be careful, using similar language the U.S. State Department employs when warning Americans about countries that have fallen victim to attacks by extremists. "Please be aware of immediate surroundings and avoid crowded places when possible," the UAE embassy said in a statement that urged people to stay away from any U.S. demonstrations. "Exercise particular caution during large festivals or events, be alert and stay safe." "In July alone, the United States has issued travel warnings for Bangladesh, Venezuela, Iraq and Mali." Posted by Poirot, Monday, 11 July 2016 2:05:44 PM
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Would the situation in the US be better if they did away with
those police forces of every little town & city and collected into
their state police forces ?
To all; A bit of background to the economy.
For many years there has been no increase in average wages in the US.
The standard of living has been falling for a long time.
It can been seen in the falling energy consumption per head in the US.
This is having widespread effects at all levels in the US and is no
doubt affecting race relations because the whites are getting the blame.