The National Forum   Donate   Your Account   On Line Opinion   Forum   Blogs   Polling   About   
The Forum - On Line Opinion's article discussion area



Syndicate
RSS/XML


RSS 2.0

Main Articles General

Sign In      Register

The Forum > General Discussion > The Greens, Trots or Trolls of the Parliament?

The Greens, Trots or Trolls of the Parliament?

  1. Pages:
  2. 1
  3. 2
  4. 3
  5. ...
  6. 31
  7. 32
  8. 33
  9. Page 34
  10. 35
  11. 36
  12. 37
  13. ...
  14. 49
  15. 50
  16. 51
  17. All
Paul,

Example of a stupid policy,

Do you really believe that a person should be prosecuted for using a gun to defeat the designs of a terrorist/murderer against their life?

C'mon, defend this bit of Greens' stupidity if you dare,
Posted by Is Mise, Tuesday, 12 July 2016 2:02:33 PM
Find out more about this user Recommend this comment for deletion Return to top of page Return to Forum Main Page Copy comment URL to clipboard
Just get BTT: On the association of Trotskyites with jihadists, Pascal Bruckner has written this:

"All of the ultra-left is fascinated by the eruptive power of jihadism. This alliance has been theorised by the Socialist Workers' party in England: under certain conditions, the alliance with Muslims - even if reactionary or retrograde - is necessary in order to shake up the fortress of capitalism. Since we have missed out with the proletariat, and the Third World, we have to bring this about through this sacrificial monotheism in which the faithful form a substitute-proletariat. This is what is called 'Islamo-leftism."

Elsewhere, he notes:

"The peculiarity of Europe is a paradox pushed to the extreme: out of the medieval came the Renaissance; out of feudalism, the aspiration to democracy; and out of the church’s repression, the rise of the Enlightenment. The religious wars promoted secularism, national antagonisms promoted the hope of a supranational community, and the revolutions of the twentieth century promoted the anti-totalitarian movement."

I wish the last was true. Bruckner writes a great deal about the reflex-action anti-US, anti-Europe, anti-modern approach of people who think they are on the Left, and its apocalyptic, almost religious, attitude to current power structures and political systems, along the lines that "We're all doomed unless .... " [Fill in your own particular 'end of days' scenario].

Elsewhere, he has passionately defended Ayan Hirsi Ali, the forerunner of new forms of feminism. I hope he has bodyguards.

What has this got to do with the Greens, I hear you ask ?

Joe
Posted by Loudmouth, Tuesday, 12 July 2016 6:57:05 PM
Find out more about this user Recommend this comment for deletion Return to top of page Return to Forum Main Page Copy comment URL to clipboard
Joe, there are lunatics all over the world including The Socialist Workers Party UK, and the Shooters Party Australia, just to name two among hundreds, if not thousands, of fringe dwellers who orbit at the extremes of the political universe. Like The Shooters Party here, with their less than 2% popular support, The Socialist Workers Party Uk is of the same magnitude. Both have way out policies which appeal to a few of the more psychotic members of society. So what is you point?

As for your attempt at planting the seed with;

"What has this got to do with the Greens, I hear you ask?"

No one is asking, possibly just rumblings in your head you can hear.

Nothing to do with any of this nonsense, but what can you tell me about Jimmy James?

Is Mise, stupid policy is the kind that would see innocent people die so that a few of the perverted people can enjoy their gunnie pursuits. read your own parties website if you want stupid policy.

You have not answered my questions about the spectacular failure of The Shooters and Hooters at the recent federal election. Do you expect a please explain from the far right National Shooters Association of the US about the result. After all it is them who bank rolled the whole sorry episode. Mr Heston must be most disappointed with you fella's efforts, you failed to fire a shot!
Posted by Paul1405, Wednesday, 13 July 2016 5:14:26 AM
Find out more about this user Recommend this comment for deletion Return to top of page Return to Forum Main Page Copy comment URL to clipboard
Paul,

I realize that answering the question of why the Greens consider it an offence to use a firearm in self defence against terrorists or murderers is a difficult one for you to answer but a clarification of the Green's position would be very helpful.
I find it difficult to understand why an Australian political party would want to thus give comfort to terrorists, murderers and other violent criminals.

Surely if a person saves their own life or someone else's by using a gun to overcome a terrorist in the commission of a crime then they ought to be commended rather than condemned.
Posted by Is Mise, Wednesday, 13 July 2016 9:31:04 AM
Find out more about this user Recommend this comment for deletion Return to top of page Return to Forum Main Page Copy comment URL to clipboard
Is Mise,

"Surely if a person saves their own life or someone else's by using a gun to overcome a terrorist in the commission of a crime then they ought to be commended rather than condemned."

That's really a pretty flimsy foundation.

How many "terrorists" have been taken out by civilians in Australia lately?

Are you expecting a sudden upsurge in the number of "terrorists" per capita in this country."

You sound as if you imagine there's one lurking behind every second tree.
Posted by Poirot, Wednesday, 13 July 2016 9:39:36 AM
Find out more about this user Recommend this comment for deletion Return to top of page Return to Forum Main Page Copy comment URL to clipboard
Hi Paul,

Do you mean Jimmy James, the tracker ? Born about 1915, died about 1990 ? I 'worked' with him, in the sense that he was on a labourer's wage like me. We'd be pruning about this time of the year, while he stayed in the Toyota.

Yes, I remember his wife Lily, his kids Alex, Jim-boy and Nellie, all gone now, all of the kids under thirty five. I don't recall his sons ever working a single day. Actually, there were two Jimmy James, Lily's father who came from around Alice Springs and tracked for the NT and SA police until he died around 1945, and the more recent one from across the SA-WA border.

He was a very smart old bloke: he used to get paid by results, not by the time spent. So one time, he drew out a hunt for an escaped prisoner over a couple of weeks, probably clocking up a huge wage bill for all of the other officers. So they kicked up his pay after that.

Thanks for the memories !

Cheers,

Joe
Posted by Loudmouth, Wednesday, 13 July 2016 9:50:16 AM
Find out more about this user Recommend this comment for deletion Return to top of page Return to Forum Main Page Copy comment URL to clipboard
  1. Pages:
  2. 1
  3. 2
  4. 3
  5. ...
  6. 31
  7. 32
  8. 33
  9. Page 34
  10. 35
  11. 36
  12. 37
  13. ...
  14. 49
  15. 50
  16. 51
  17. All

About Us :: Search :: Discuss :: Feedback :: Legals :: Privacy