I actually don't care about who does or doesn't perpetrate the gun violence in America Onthebeach, I am just glad we aren't suffering the same fate here.

With the school gun massacres at least, I can't recall seeing your dreaded African Americans as the perpetrators, at least for the major ones shown by the media?
Maybe there is a conspiracy to keep those other massacres from being shown?

In any case, you are now just trying to flog a dead horse on this issue.
See you all on another thread.

Suseonline, "I actually don't care about who does or doesn't perpetrate the gun violence in America.."

You are in denial of the abundant evidence that the so-called 'gun culture' problem is actually a well-identified 'social culture' problem.

Obama and ors are trying to shift the blame for the negative outcomes of multiculturalism and their own failed leftist social policies and experimentation.

So much for 'diversity' always being a social or economic good. The idealistic, now excuse-making Angela Merkel has inflicted a similar problem and future on Germany.

Regarding the separate problem of the infrequent and unique "mass shooting" where Virginia Tech., Colombine and recent schoolshootings are concerned it is correct that the offenders are also very different indeed. Such dreadful murders have been responsible for only a small fraction of the people murdered annually and stand out and already stated as unique, requiring separate research and remedies.

Suicide too involves different subsets of the population and successful versus threatened and attempted different again.

Wouldn't it be much easier if it could all be blamed on a 'gun culture' so politicians and others with their secondary agendas can come up with pat 'solutions'?

Nothing like a self-promoting, side-stepping, moral BS artist like Obama for denying the obvious though and ducking any accountability. In Australia, the then PM John Howard did a lasting disservice to the victims, their relatives and the public by ruthlessly blocking the Royal Commission that should have been held into the Port Arthur massacre.

In these times of probable terrorist attacks anywhere in the world at any time, including the US, a gun buy-back scheme is likely to be the last thing that any politician would be stupid enough to recommend.

Who would give their guns back ? Perhaps only the most law-abiding. Who would keep theirs ? The rest.

With three hundred million weapons in circulation, it would simply not be on anybody's agenda.

.... Just in case anybody was going to recommend it .....

Joe

I would not have any problems at all if all if my neighbours like many thousands of other Aussies had current firearms licences. I would prefer it.

That way I am sure they have all passed character and background checks with flying colours and are good citizens. Just pleased to have a buffer of good, solid, law-abiding citizens of many years standing surrounding my home and family.

I have no such assurances where 'that' highly secretive 'gun control' outfit is concerned and the alleged two or three secret squirrel activists behind it. They run a site where the begging bowl is always out for public donations, but refuse to volunteer even the basic details that any reputable group, organisation or business would provide without question. Examples being, owners, directors, current membership, sources of funds and other support, overseas sponsorship if any, how the money is expended, independent auditing, links and so on.

It is simply amazing, unreal, how the 'fact checking' (that is a laugh) ABC continually provides a free podium for gun control 'spokespersons', ranting activists who appear out of the blue with with talking sheets(provided by whom?) and impressive-sounding, self-awarded titles. Always only leading questions from the ABC, strange that is.

The ABC doesn't make it a rule to provide balance by inviting representatives of the many thousands of ordinary licensed citizens, such as the SSAA and others, despite the fact that their members are being attacked and maligned.

What is even more amazing is that in all of the time the ABC has been giving a free podium and free runs to those secretive 'gun control' advocates, the ABC has never found it necessary to ask any of the obvious due diligence questions.

Not information that the public should be expecting to inform themselves, obviously. Just trust the ABC and never you mind.

Gun control is NOT cost efficient and effective firearms regulation based on risk analysis and evidence. It is nothing like that.

Gun control is about disarming the ordinary law-abiding citizens of western democracies: confiscations and bans and stripping rights from ordinary law-abiding citizens.

Look... we have the makings of our first regiment of 'Citizens Militia' under the command of Colonel Wilhelm Beach. Marching down Main Street, with the Colonel at the head, followed by Bob and Betty Burtstill from number 12, with their AK47's slung nicely over their shoulders, and look, there's the little Burtstill's carrying AK23 1/2 (the junior model). Old Fred from number 17 is bring up the rear in his slinky new Abrams Tank, got a good trade on the Kingswood. Freds a veteran of WWI you know.
An ideal Sunday morning in suburbia. The world is at peace and safe from you know who....feminists, commo's pinko's you get the drift.

Carrying on Paul's fine homey story.....Suddenly, Beach's street is disturbed by screams and gunshots, as Bob chases Betty out onto the street and shoots her dead in front of the neighbours.

Apparently she told Bob she was leaving him, and this fine upstanding citizen who previously passed all the 'tests' needed to purchase a gun in the suburbs went crazy and picked up his handy nearby shotty and showed Betty just what happens to any of his ' possessions' who pi##ed him off! Little Billy-Bob and Betty-Sue are now left without their mum, and daddy is off to jail.

Beach "That way I am sure they have all passed character and background checks with flying colours and are good citizens. Just pleased to have a buffer of good, solid, law-abiding citizens of many years standing surrounding my home and family."

Lol......yeah right, coz no one who legally owns a gun ever killed anyone or committed any gun-related crimes.....