"gun-toting country like America, especially in Chicago"

That is your uninformed prejudice at work. In fact, Chicago does have the most restrictive gun laws or close to it, of anywhere.

What you and ors do when you follow the lemmings, placing trust in the word of politicians and others with a secondary political agenda is roll logs in the way of change.

It is not convenient for Obama for instance to be accountable for his own ineffectiveness in combating violence. It is far easier for the Obamas of the world and they are on both sides of politics, he is more hypocritical, to avoid the real, not so easily identified or resolved, causes of violence, such as the forever escalating drug trafficking and the gangs involved in it.

Why is serious violence so predominately black on black, gangs and drug culture? Obama isn't interested. He is a politician and populism and easy 'solutions' are the order of the day. One thing is certain though, which is that Obama and other politicians are wilfully and cynically ignoring and even denying advice that is being afforded to them by well-meaning, intelligent and experienced people within his administration.

As long as career politicians can get away with that they will always be able to block the entry of the far better qualified and able men and women who are always there in business waiting for the call and opportunity to take up a leadership role for a time in government.

What are you on about Onthebeach? Do you deny that the US has a far worse gun culture than Australia? Of course you can't.

As for Chicago, one doesn't need to look far to get informed about their continuing gun problems, regardless of the 'stricter' gun laws you haven't cited. Uninformed maybe?

Apparently 2015 finished in Chicago with 431 shooting murders, and 26 stabbing deaths.
https://www.dnainfo.com/chicago/2015-chicago-murders/explore-data

These were just the deaths, there were 2986 shooting victims in Chicago in 2015 alone.
I would hate to have seen the figures before if these are improved!

Suseonline, "Do you deny that the US has a far worse gun culture than Australia?"

It has all been laid out in front of you so many times. Once again, sit back, have a glass of cold water and educate yourself,

Chicago,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFEwh_6_Ju8

Suse,

"These were just the deaths, there were 2986 shooting victims in Chicago in 2015 alone."

Just imagine how much worse it could have been if Chicago was not a gun free zone.

Hi Suse,

"Strict" gun laws in the state of Illinois include the right to carry a concealed hand gun, you don't have to have it strapped to your leg Dodge City style, but hidden in your coat. You never know when you might run into a sassy backdating checkout chick down at the market and that gun will come in handy.

You need a $10 licence to carry a gun in Illinois;

The cost of FOID card is $10.00. Applicants must be Illinois residents and include their Illinois Drivers License or State ID card number on the application. Applicants under the age of 18 must have a parent's signature on the application. The parent must be eligible to have a FOID card.

For a person who supports an 'Armed Citizens Militia' like OTB, those Chicago laws would seem rather draconian.

So when people are killed by guns, the cause is guns.

And when people are killed by knives, the cause is guns.

Meanwhile these people were really killed by the insane war on drugs. Tens of thousands world-wide die each year because things that were legal 150yrs ago are now illegal. Police forces are corrupted. Violent revolution is financed. Goals are filled.

All so that the wowser end of society can dictate to their moral 'inferiors' what they can and can't put in their bodies.