Dear Bazz,

<<We do not want to impose "our" culture on anybody>>

Perhaps you don't, but Jay of Melbourne does. He wrote: "What's wrong with imposing European culture on European people in order to strengthen them?"

So unlike your friends here, I give you the benefit of the doubt.

I just wondered how long can people discuss this topic over and over again: Islam, Islam, Islam, so it makes me suspect that this is just a cover for a different and broader quest.

Our ABC ran a load of rubbish about the "Sovereign Citizen" movement. Lots of death and bombs in the US and one 73 year old they accused of murder but who denied it. What a load of nonsense. No one has heard of these idiots before because they could hold a mass meeting in a phone box.
ABC lies trying to generate some cover for their lousy islamist mates. I think we are at the stage where the ABC has to suffer savage cuts until they obey their own charter.

Thanks O sung Wu, it is nice to read another well reasoned response to this issue rather than the mass hysteria many others on this site indulge in.

I think you are right Yuyutsu, there is far more to the rants from the usual good ol' boys who flock together on this site against all things Muslim.
The word 'bigots' springs to mind fairly quickly.

Personally, I am now bored with the topic, so I think I will just flock off....

Yuyutse, I think it would be much more educational for moslems to see
a demonstration of what democracy can do for people compared to their
theological dictatorships.

They have had the demonstration but they still want to be our enemy.
Those migrating to Europe seem to have made the comparison and are
voting with their feet.
Of course the theological dictators blame us for their troubles.

They even blame the west for the crusades.
That bit of propaganda really stuck, even into western education.
I do not see any hope of separating Islam & the west, so I think
that the future only holds war.
Perhaps this time the moslem armies can be stopped before they reach
the gates of Vienna. Or have they already passed through ?

Dear Bazz,

I was not intending to discuss Muslims and Islam yet again - we must have had at least 20 repeated discussions over this same topic lately on OLO and I'm simply tired of it.

Normally I disagree with the concept of states and their governments, but security is virtually the only exception and the government's only legitimate function. This Muslim thing is all about security, so why not allow them to do their job? They are being paid handsomely with my tax-money to break their heads over these security issues, to study and arrive at the best solutions while I don't get a penny for it and in any case, if and when Muslims take over Australia, it will be long after I've left this world for good!

The question I raised was different:

- Why are you and your friends never tired of raising this issue again and again. I suspect there is some ulterior motive that has nothing to do with Islam itself.

Yuyutse, well I for one am bored with it, but it keeps on intruding
itself into our faces.
Unfortunately if we just go away and yak on about Global Warming energy
etc etc, Islam will still be there doing its thing, blowing someone
up, or cutting someones head off or shooting up a police station.
You are right it is a security matter, but are the security services
able to stop them or does it need an alert and knowledgeable community
to agree with legislation changes from time to time.
Perhaps France, Belgium & Holland would not be in strife if they had
taken more notice earlier on.

There is no easy answer and no one is exactly right or wrong.