If a man puts on a leather jacket and shoes, then downs a chocolate milkshake; Dose that make him a cow?

No Paul, he needs udder things like a leather cap and then becomes a cow.

Oh dear, we're running out of topics.

Paul1405, "If a man puts on a leather jacket and shoes, then downs a chocolate milkshake; Dose that make him a cow?"

Should we be taking it then that union attitudes haven't changed? - That only the first two (three?) letters of LGBTQI count? -But you still want all of their $subs and votes as 'useful idiots'?

- Since you are the forum's prominent NSW Green (close associate of Shoebridge and Lee Rhiannon) and union member - not to mention ardent supporter of the CFMEU and AWU.

Having been involved, albeit temporarily in assisting PS managers in sorting out some practical workplace solutions for transgenders I can only say that the inconvenience and suffering of the male -> female (trans) especially, were unnecessarily made worse by the intransigence of union reps who were toeing the feminist line.

Yes Paul, can you tell us about all those feminists in the Greens party ranting and raving about transgender men? Are there even that many transgender people out there to be concerned about?

Actually, I sincerely doubt many feminists out there give much thought about transgender issues at all.
It seems it is mainly OTB, Roscop and ttbn who are most concerned about what other men do with their genitals. Are you guys giving the idea some serious thought then?

Suseonline,

How very dismissive of you and your comrade Paul1405.

Neither of you would be interested then, but for the benefit of others:

"transgender
denoting or relating to a person whose self-identity does not conform unambiguously to conventional notions of male or female gender."[dictionary]

<Family Court Chief Justice calls for rethink on how High Court handles cases involving transgender children
Four Corners By Mark Bannerman>
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-11-17/chief-justice-calls-for-rethink-on-transgender-childrens-cases/5894698

and from same link,

<Chief Justice Bryant.

She said that even before any High Court ruling on the issue, other steps could be taken to help transgender children access treatment.

"I am confident that we can put in place a process which will be easily manageable and will not be expensive for parties to be able to come to court and get a decision about capacity to consent," she said.

In a recent New Zealand study, 1.2 per cent of secondary schools students identified as transgender.

If these numbers were reflected in Australia, it would mean almost 18,000 Australian students.>