A major irony in all this racist business is that the Jews and the
Arabs are the one race, namely Semites.
The Jews because they have been driven out of Israel two or three times
have a few other genes mixed in.

Someone compared the number of Nobel Prizes the Jews and the Arabs
have been awarded. It was very heavily in favour of the Jews.
I guess that had to be expected when you consider their histories.

Good point, Bazz: so any attack on Jews is, in a sort of convoluted way, perhaps and maybe, a racist attack on Semites ?

And, because Arabs are Semites (mostly), and Islam is their main religion, then - it's amazing how my simple mind works - any attack on Jews is an attack - yet again - on the wrongly-reviled religion of peace ? God, it's so often wrongly reviled :(

Pretty much every religion is a 'religion of peace'. Usually they are, or have been, also religions of war, force, etc., in favour (or at least not opposed to) garden gnomes, salad dressings, strolls, going to bed at night and getting up early in the day, etc., etc. Yes, they are all these things.

And they can be all those other terrible things as well. And what might be the evidence that a religion can be used to justify the most vile acts ? If adherents praise those acts, or obfuscate and apologise and trivialise them, or find infinite ways to side-track any discussion.

Watching Q & A last night, for the first few minutes, with everybody gushing about how that poor boy who accidentally blew that Chinese bloke's head off (stop me if you think this is racist) was misunderstood and Islam is a religion of peace, I thought the Muslim guy looked a little like a cat who was strolling through a flock of innocent, dopey pigeons: just a quiet smile that said 'Yes! I've got these dumb-arse pigeons where I want them. No rush.'

Let's get something straight: Islamo-fascism is fascism, it is a vile, right-wing movement, despite the left-wing pigeons flocking to appease it. It is about as right-wing as you could get and watching Bandt somehow justify an ideology whose adherents would gladly throw him off a high roof, I wonder how far apologetics could go.

Disgusting, Tony Jones. And the ABC. You should be ashamed.

Loudmouth,
It seems these days you can never hear mention of Islam unless
it is tagged with "the religion of peace".
It is similar to the addendum "illshallah" moslems say after everything.

When people keep saying something like the religion of peace you have
to wonder why they feel it necessary.
Wasn't it Goebbels that said tell a lie often enough and people will
believe it.

Oh yes Q&A, I nearly gave up when I saw the cast, but I persisted
for at least ten minutes until the gushing got too much.
When Tony Jones leaned over once I thought he was going to give him a big kiss.

I just do not see how anyone can believe that the arrival of
muslims into this country has been anything but a disaster unless
they have been and are still in a coma.

You only have to look at all the TV & radio coverage, all the extra
police time, all the extra security expenditure etc etc to realise
that there has been a monumental failure of immigration.

Bazz
No one is saying allowing Muslim’s to come here is good, People are saying they are here so how are we going to help them to become Australian’s. There is no trap door to let them into another world. They have been here for 50-60 years.
You are talking about nothing that can add to anything. That is a far right Conservative view. That you have.

Thanks Bazz,

The useful idiots are quiet today :)

Of course, one could pick over the Koran and find somewhere surahs that sound peaceful - ergo, 'Islam is a religion of peace.'

But, probably more often - give it a go, dear reader - one can find the most violent, brutal passages as well: 'therefore, Islam is a religion of brutality and war'.

And on this Google site, which takes all those verses chronologically,

http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Chronological_Order_of_the_Qur'an

one may not realise that LATER verses over-ride, or 'abrogate', al those EARLIER verses. If there is a later verse which countermands an earlier one, then the later verse is the one which stands: Mecca verses thus countermand earlier Medina verses:

This listing goes from the most recent to the earliest. Some of the early ones are quite peaceful. I particularly like verse 32 of Surah V: clearly, according to the Koran, for that little tyrd who blew that bloke's head off 'it shall be as if he has killed all of mankind.... '

ABC, take note.

Just dip into it, it's really very instructive.

Joe

Actually doog, I know what I would like to see happen, but I know
short of civil war it won't happen.
What to actually do about the problem I am at a loss.
All I can see is to try damage limitation by stopping further arrivals.

If Geert Wilders becomes Prime Minister of the Netherlands it would be
interesting to see what his government would introduce.
His party, I gather, could become the largest party in their parliament.
They seem to have some positive policies and those that want to return
to their previous countries would get financial assistance.

Perhaps Neu Holland could emulate Olde Holland.