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Posted by Jay Of Melbourne, Sunday, 11 October 2015 7:28:36 PM
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Aidan, How are the demonstrators expressing racist slogans?
How are the supporters of a Mosque identifying their opposition to a religious structure as racists? It seems every opponent to Islam is considered as racist by supporters of Islam. Posted by Josephus, Sunday, 11 October 2015 7:49:40 PM
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Nice little game of semantics, Josephus.
Let's just settle for "bigots"....and a more impressive band of crackpot, roughneck rabble you'd be battling to find...replete with the fold impressions still in their cheap Chinese-made flags. Although, poor old Pauline Hanson could have done with a little tuition in 2007 - when she famously blathered that she had no truck with Muslims - but Christian Muslims would be just fine. "There are Christian Muslims - there is no problems about that," she told ABC radio yesterday." http://www.news.com.au/national/christian-muslims-welcome-says-hanson/story-e6frfkp9-1111113251407 ROFL! Posted by Poirot, Sunday, 11 October 2015 8:45:36 PM
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I'm glad to read that you include Aboriginals in your group Jay of Melbourne, as sometimes I am confused re who is in or out with you. As for Trotsky and the now century old Russian revolution, what on earth has he got to do with modern day Australia?
As you are an 'opponent' of Islam Josephus, what would you call yourself then? I am opposed to violence from any group of people, and am not religious at all, but I don't call myself racist because of my thoughts about other religious people. I take them as they come, regardless of their religion, or if they don't believe in any God at all. Posted by Suseonline, Sunday, 11 October 2015 9:28:59 PM
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Poirot,
The only bigots are Daniel Andrews and his rabble of violent Anarchists and Trotskyites, unfortunately the vast majority of working people are not supporters of multiculturalism and immigration because of their overwhelmingly negative impact upon us. Rich people like you support immigration and multiculturalism because you make money from it and you're insulated from the crime, the ethnic gangs terrorising the suburbs, the bullying and just generally hostile, negative mindset of people from the Third World. What's more as Daniel Andrew proved on Friday the Bourgeois parties don't even seek to represent working Victorians, they work for the benefit of foreigners and multinational companies. Posted by Jay Of Melbourne, Monday, 12 October 2015 6:57:35 AM
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Suse,
Socialist Alliance, Socialist Equality Party and Socialist Alternative are all Trotskyite groups, along with the ANTIFA street gang they are the main, street level opposition to political activism in the working class. They see Trotsky's ideals as the model for socialist revolution, they hold lectures and workshops on Trotsky on a regular basis, their advertising posters appear all over Melbourne. These groups are better described as auxilliaries of the state or volunteer political police, they use violence and intimidation to quash dissent among those they see as "peasants", "bogans" or "yobbos". Posted by Jay Of Melbourne, Monday, 12 October 2015 7:04:38 AM
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Well Islam is often described as Judaism 2.0, it has more in common with Orthodox Judaism than Christianity.
Re the second part of your post.
Nobody living today was here "first", we're all here now, that's all that matters, the UPF include Aboriginals and Aboriginal culture in their foundation mythos, so to speak and I've met several Aboriginal people at their rallies, I won't lie and say there are lots but there are a handful involved.
The accepted position is that Aboriginals are our equals but not our betters, their history is our history and vice versa and they can make up their own minds about who they want to support, some indigenous people are deeply patriotic, others are not.
The vast majority of Aboriginals are integrated into mainstream society, the same issues that affect Whites and which the UPF seek to address affect them, in some circumstances even more so as Aborigines often find themselves losing out to migrants in employment etc.
I've explained the context of the "racist" epithet above, racist just means a non-Trotskyite, very few Aboriginals are interested in Trotsky and get along just fine with White people.