Is Mise "If a female is pregnant and the hymen is intact then the mother to be is a virgin." Not true at all.
Not all acts of intercourse break the hymen, and some women are born without a hymen.

In any case, where is it written/proved that someone 'checked' if Mary was a virgin after becoming pregnant with Jesus? Or did they all just take her word for it?

I'll just leave this here....

"Christian evangelists are teaching students they should “die for their faith if necessary’’ and to “thank God for the gift of cancer’’.

A workbook listed for religious education lessons in Year 9 in NSW government schools tells teenagers they have “sinned and deserve God’s punishment” and that the world is in “deep trouble’’.

The accompanying teachers’ manual, titled You: An Introduction, says students should be taught to “submit our bodies to God’s will … even by dying for our faith if necessary’’.

The lesson plan says students should think about their “lies, ­deceit, manipulation, anger, lust, jealousy, hatred and worship of ourselves’’: “It’s a heavy weight we cannot bear, and one day we will be held accountable for it and will pay for it with our death.’’

The student workbook includes a letter with the headline “Thank God for the gift of cancer!’’ written by Bronwyn Chin, who died of pancreatic cancer in 2013. “I would like to grow old with my husband and see my kids grow up. But God appears to have a better plan,’’ the letter says.

Another worksheet features a girl who wonders why her mother has cancer and concludes “my mum’s cancer was the result of a mucked-up and broken world caused by sin’’.

The teaching guide links menstruation and sickness to sin. “Now, being sick or having your period isn’t a sin — but it reminds us that the body and therefore all of humanity now live with the curse of sin,’’ it says."

etc...

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/education/be-prepared-to-die-for-god-kids-told-in-state-school-classes/story-fn59nlz9-1227572155005

Dearie me...Australia, 2015

Suse,

There may be some teenie weenies that could do it without rupture but as a general statement what I said is true; what percentage of girls are born without a hymen?
Virginity is the state of a person who has never engaged in sexual intercourse, such intercourse being usually thought of as penetrative.

"Christianity is living together in community and restoring those that have failed."

Here is one such example, Josephus...

http://www.latimes.com/nation/nationnow/la-na-nn-church-fatal-beating-20151017-story.html

Responsibility lies where? The Christians involved, all Christians, Christianity, their race, the culture in which they were raised?

And if they had been Muslim, Hindu, Sikh, etc?

I chose to blame anyone who is so hypocritical that the god they claim is all powerful requires them to act in its stead.

History shows that god is impotent which is also a gotcha for presumed immaculate conceptions.

I have to agree with poirot here. There are some Christian sicko out there. My mate daughter had a brain cancer & the number of religious loonies that lined up to wave coloured piecers of paper & cloth over her, dance around her hospital bed shouting Jesus's name & other Shamanistic New Age Charismatic BS was sickening.

Having that stuff pushed on you at school at a young impressionable age is just plain wrong. Just like the Islamic Madrassas teach the kids to kill all the infidels. It's all nonsense brainwashing & dangerous.

Is Mise: How about a reference or two?

I've give references before, but here's some more. "Joshua, The Man they Called Jesus," Ian Jones.(Lothian). Hasmonean Dynasty & their relationships (family Tree). Google that. There are also references in Whiston's Josephus. Ist. Origen is a good source too. Nicene Council, Google that too, Various references there. Also Tiberius Iulius Abdes Penthera & Yeshua bar Stada. Oh, I remembered, Yeshua ben Hamzer (Bastard)

A good read.
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/biblianazar/esp_biblianazar_7.htm

Titus Flavius Josephus (Roman Historian) was originally Joseph ben Matthias a Jew that was given Roman Citizenship & wrote the record of the Roman Empire at that time.

Wm Trevor,

"I chose to blame anyone who is so hypocritical that the god they claim is all powerful requires them to act in its stead."

indeed....

Talking of hypocrisy, I wonder what the likes of Josephus would say if he came across literature in an Islamic school pushing this kind of thing:

"The accompanying teachers’ manual, titled You: An Introduction, says students should be taught to “submit our bodies to God’s will … even by dying for our faith if necessary’’."

I imagine, he and a few others here would be fizzing an a popping and having a good fulsome rant