Islam is a religion and political organisation intent on world domination. Race has nothing to do with Islam, and the tiresome deadheads who call people who are onto the true meaning and intent of Islam, 'racist', are stupid, and don't even understand their own language. They are raving idiots, who are too ignorant to realise that they would not get the chance to voice their dumb opinions, nor to demonstrate, under Islam.

Please, can we agree to bury this lie that Islam is a race ? Can we stop dragging that stinking red herring across the debate ?

Islam is manifestly a religion, a philosophy, an ethic, a body of ideas, originating in tribal Arabia. And all bodies of ideas, even Islam, can - and should, in a modern society - be open to criticism.

Are there ideas in Islam that can or should be criticised ? is it possible that ISIS and jihadists are adhering to the very letter of Islam - that they can find, chapter and verse, or hadith - support for their ideology. Is that so, members of the Left and Right, or not so ?

Are there verses in the Koran which support beheading, mutilation, slavery, rape and invasion ? Or are there no such verses at all ? Is the book of 'the religion of peace' completely devoid of such injunctions ? Is it full of verses about peace and love, and nothing but ?

And, dear reader, if you hesitate over the answers to those questions and try to find excuses and obfuscations, then you may be playing a lying game, even with yourself. And you know it.

Joe

Again, because people need to be reminded every few hours:
"Racist" means "Peasant", I don't care what the dictionary or encyclopedia says, they are wrong, the word has one context and one context only, Revolutionary Marxist Socialism.
The only Marxian groups still active are followers of the Fourth International, "Trotskyites" in other words and they use Trotsky's definition when he refers to racists as uneducated, backward peasants who deluded by the church and bourgeoisie have come to believe that their societies and institutions are truly democratic and therefore pledge their higher allegiance to nation and god and hold to tradition and routine rather than science and innovation.
This is exactly the tone used by Premier Andrews on Friday last when he smirked and declared that most UPF people "wouldn't even be able to spell Bendigo".

Jay,

Funny, I didn't know the world danced to a Trotskyite tune, that others may have different definitions of what was meant by 'race'. Even in my most rabid Marxist days, I always thought of the Trots as a bunch of immature ratbags. And I think I got that right, at least.

But one thing that most definitions of 'race' would have in common the proviso that one should not confuse 'race' and religion. 'Race' purports to refer to biological characteristics, while religion is associated with beliefs, ideas, philosophies, ideologies.

People from all over the world can be Muslims: in the past year or so, we have seen people charged with terrorism offences from a variety of original backgrounds - Bosnia, Turkey, Kurdistan, Lebanese, and from many other places. So let's leave 'race' at the door, while we analyse - sorry, 'deconstruct' - Islam as a religion: does it condone the most brutal and barbaric behaviour of adherents, or not ?

While we are at it, do other religions foster terrorism ? Have there been any terrorist attacks by Buddhists here in Australia ? Has any Buddhist terrorist blown somebody's head off, while intoning 'Ommm ?' Has anybody taken people hostage, put up a Buddhist terrorist flag, shot some poor bugger while he was on his knees, and died happily thinking he was going straight to Nirvana ? Has any Buddhist youth attacked a couple of coppers at random ? Is any Buddhist religious authority calling for random knifings ? I suppose all of that would be difficult while one was in the 'Pissing Tiger' position.

I'm trying to think when was the last time any overtly Christian terrorist murdered anybody in Australia - Forrest River in 1926 ? No, those weren't overtly Christians. Coniston in 1928 ? No, neither were they.

Broken Hill in late 1915 ? Yes, but let's sweep that 'incident' under the carpet: after all they were Afghans, Muslim murderers.

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Nope, I can't think of the last time anybody in Australia murdered anybody at random, in the name of their religion, except Muslims. Can you, dear reader ?

Why would they do that ? Because of their 'race' ? Of course not. Because of their beliefs, the notion that they were carrying out the instructions of their god ? That seems likely. You may know better.

So what do we do about it ?

Joe

Aidan: However there are a lot of racists who use opposition to Islam as a cover for their racist policies.

No they don't. Some, but very few.

Aidan: But whether by race or religion, discrimination is wrong.

Well tell that to the moslems. They have to discriminate against ALL Infidels. They have to they have been instructed to by allah. Let not go through the verse thing again. We've been there.

Poirot: Let's just settle for "bigots"....and a more impressive band of crackpot, roughneck rabble you'd be battling to find...replete with the fold impressions still in their cheap Chinese-made flags.

Poirot: Let's just settle for "bigots"....and a more impressive band of crackpot, roughneck rabble you'd be battling to find...replete with the fold impressions still in their cheap Chinese-made flags.

That's not a nice thing to say about the Mosk supporters. You haven't answered the list of Questions I asked you some time ago. Do you want me to post them again. I'd like to know your truthful answers.

Made it back to Australia eh. No trouble getting in. How's the ME, Things hotting up there I see with the Russians joining in the fun. I like their style & I agree with them. A Terrorist is a Terrorist is a Terrorist.

Loudmouth: I can't think of the last time anybody in Australia murdered anybody at random, in the name of their religion, except Muslims. Can you, dear reader ?

No, I can't. Anybody?